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LordGro (Old as dirt)
2016-08-20 03:50:28

No, because Unreliable Narrator only ever applies to the narrator in a first-person narrative. It is not about any character telling an untruth.

Also, it is not possible to "lump together several unrelated tropes under another trope". It's the very point of troping to list tropes that occur in a work with an example text that explains how that specific trope applies.

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StFan Since: Jan, 2001
2016-08-20 04:17:55

And when a character's exposition is unreliable, rather than the story's narrator, then it's Unreliable Expositor. This trope is too often overshadowed by Unreliable Narrator.

Chabal2 Since: Jan, 2010
2016-08-20 06:20:56

^^ No, as in putting them as sub-bullets for Unreliable Expositor (and not as ZC Es), since they all have "if he's telling the truth" in common.

Daefaroth Since: Jan, 2014
2016-08-20 06:32:07

^Right, do NOT do that. See Example Indentation in Trope Lists. If Five-Man Band isn't allowed to do that you certainly are not allowed to do that here.

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war877 Since: Dec, 2015
2016-08-20 20:36:06

The trope occurs in the work regardless of if he's telling the truth or not.

This grouping idea is super bad for another reason as well. You are simply never supposed to do that.

However. Unreliable narrator is not restricted to first person narration. I don't know why anyone would think that.

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
2016-08-21 01:34:13

As others said, no. Explain in the entries that they may be unreliable and pothole in these explanations to Unreliable Narrator, but no subbullets.

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