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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
1st Feb, 2016 07:22:58 AM

Have they made more mistakes after being messaged?

I find people tend not to fix the mistakes they made because they assumed someone will do it/they're not sure how to do it, but if they keep making the same mistakes we've got a problem.

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TheNerfGuy Since: Mar, 2011
1st Feb, 2016 07:40:25 AM

They have. I sent a message regarding natter on the 28th prior to a work page they launched; that day was the 29th, so they had received the message by then. Said work page had indentation issues. Technically, the natter they put also violated indentation rules.

The Word Cruft they put is still there, and that work page they launched has some ZC Es. Both instances of natter I pointed out have not yet been dealt with.

Edited by TheNerfGuy
ZeldaQueen64 Since: Apr, 2015
3rd Feb, 2016 03:29:08 AM

First of all, I apologize for the lack of responses. That was my mistake. I was under the impression that P Ms for natter and such didn't send responses back to the senders, since I used to do so and never got replies (not for Thenerfguy's notifications, for the very first times I received them). If I knew otherwise, I certainly would have given responses.

Second of all, I have corrected the indentation issues you cited me for. I did not edit the Prison Rape and Americasia examples because I felt that they were relevant to the page. My Prison Rape edit was in regards to the police officers discussing Selene Kyle's safety in being left in an all-male prison with her breaking a prisoner's hand in response to leering. My Americasia edit was pointing out that that the localization team for Ace Attorney did view the game's world as being a blend of American and Japanese culture (the initial example pointed out how the games gave the impression of it). I was never made aware of any ZC Es on my Radiance page, having done the best I could to explain how each one was relevant. If I left any in, I apologize. Please let me know what they are and I'll edit them.

I'm also sorry about the indentation issues. It was not until recently that I learned the proper method, which I did apply to Radiance. I haven't had a chance to go back and see about my previous edits since I learned about it. I'd be more than willing to go back, if you can direct me to any other instances of it.

In regards to the word cruft for School Bullying Is Harmless, I wasn't certain how to fix that. I've been trying to figure out a better way to word it, but I've also been kept pretty busy through work and haven't had much chance to get a lot of stuff done I've been trying to do.

Again, I'm very sorry for the communications issues.

NotOnAnyFlatbread Since: May, 2011
3rd Feb, 2016 05:54:29 AM

"I did not edit the Prison Rape and Americasia examples because I felt that they were relevant to the page."

All examples on a page should be relevant—that doesn't excuse incorrect formatting or natter. If it's important enough to add to the page, then it's important enough for you to spend the time to format it correctly before adding it (and fix problems that are pointed out after the fact).

The Prison Rape example is incorrectly indented. Since there was already a single example for The Dark Knight Rises and you are adding a second, you need to leave the film title on the main bullet and move the first example to a subbullet, with your example as a second subbullet.

The Americasia entry is natter. If the information is an addition to an existing example, it should be incorporated into the same bullet point, not phrased as a reply (see Conversation in the Main Page and Repair, Don't Respond).

NotOnAnyFlatbread Since: May, 2011
3rd Feb, 2016 06:11:43 AM

"I was never made aware of any ZC Es on my Radiance page, having done the best I could to explain how each one was relevant."

Please read the Zero-Context Example page. Examples should enable a readers unfamiliar with the work to understand how it is an example of the trope. You have text for all of your examples, but often haven't included enough context to actually explain the example.

For instance:

[An Affectionate Nickname isn't just a nickname; it tells something about the relationship between characters, i.e., from the description, "because the two are either as close as True Companions, or the namer is interested romantically." Who calls her "Rinny"/"Rin" and how does it show the nicknamer's affection?]
  • Break the Cutie: Poor Anchises goes through a lot by the time Severin finds him.
[Who is Anchises? What makes him/her "the cutie"? What sort of stuff does (s)he go through?]
  • Cloudcuckoolander's Minder: Cynthia Brass is assigned to follow Anchises and make sure he actually does his job. She's not very happy about it.
[Again, who is Anchises? What makes him a Cloudcuckoolander and why does he need minding? Cynthia Brass is assigned by whom?]

There are a number of others.

TheNerfGuy Since: Mar, 2011
3rd Feb, 2016 08:06:30 AM

^^^"I was never made aware of any ZC Es on 'my' Radiance page,"

The only page that can be called "yours" is your troper page. Saying any other page is "yours" is page ownership.

I should point out that your post does contains a level of rudeness.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't your addition to Cardboard Box Home be a ZCE? It doesn't say how the trope applies and the quote you used only mentions it in passing. It also does violate Weblinks Are Not Examples.

Edited by TheNerfGuy
ZeldaQueen64 Since: Apr, 2015
3rd Feb, 2016 02:16:07 PM

@ Not On Any Flatbread - Thank you for the help. I edited everything as per your advice and will be more mindful in the future.

@ Thenerfguy - Thank you for pointing that out to me. I corrected the examples you brought up and went over the page. I think everything's properly explained but if I missed something, please let me know.

"The only page that can be called "yours" is your troper page. Saying any other page is "yours" is page ownership."

Okay, sorry about that. I didn't mean to cause trouble.

"I should point out that your post does contains a level of rudeness."

I apologized several times for my mistakes, explained myself as best I could, and accepted responsibility for what I did. If you mean about the "my" wording, I didn't mean to be rude. I made a mistake wording my thoughts at 6 in the morning, as I was getting ready for work.

I will expand on that example. I had thought the quote explained it sufficient, but I'll make it more clear.

If I missed anything, please let me know and I'll be certain to fix it. Thank you.

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