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Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
2015-11-17 21:24:32

  1. Don't. They are rarely as amusing as their creators think they are.
  2. See #1.
  3. If you are absolutely certain that you can write something that displays a character's unique voice, then make a wikilink in the Self-Demonstrating namespace and edit the resulting page.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Karxrida Since: May, 2012
2015-11-17 22:05:40

You forgot Rule 4.) Seriously don't.

Also don't pimp the SD page on the source work's pages (except the Trivia one I think?).

Edited by Karxrida
DracMonster Since: Jan, 2001
2015-11-18 04:25:59

It would be better to put it through YKTTW first rather than unilaterally create the page. That way you could get input on whether it's funny/interesting enough to warrant existing.

Edited by DracMonster
bwburke94 (Y2: Electric Boogaloo)
2015-11-18 04:46:16

This is a message from Lord Nergal. "I await you on the Dread Isle. Also, don't make a self-demonstrating page."

2025: the year it all ends?
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
2015-11-18 13:23:39

He made it anyway.

Cutlisted, since that page was deleted before for a good reason.

Edited by Larkmarn Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
wrm5 Since: Mar, 2014
2015-11-18 13:29:33

*sigh*

And as with 90% of other SD pages it's crap.

  • It's about the version of Lucifer from Shin Megami Tensei, but it shares a name with ComicBook.Lucifer which is super confusing.
  • It's basically just a generic summary of his role in the various Megami Tensei games, but written in first person. No voice, no personality, nothing to make it interesting at all. Leaning on the Fourth Wall is not the same thing as creating an interesting voice.
  • It's not even indexed.

Edited by wrm5
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
2015-11-19 06:41:19

I don't get why he bothered asking if he was just going to make it anyway... and he even already know the page had been cut before, but then he decided to remake it anyway. I don't get it. If you know enough to realize the page was cut, he reeeeeally should've known enough to know why.

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wrm5 Since: Mar, 2014
2015-11-19 07:05:34

According to what he said in Edit Banned, he thought our replies would go directly to him as P Ms or something, and when that didn't happen he decided we were okay with it and made the page.

...or at least that's what I can infer.

lexicon Since: May, 2012
2015-11-19 11:20:44

That sounds right. His only post here is the OP like he never came back to look at the conversation.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
2015-11-19 11:55:17

... that's not much better. Not realizing that you have to come back to a thread to get an answer demonstrates an amazing lack of understanding of how... anything works.

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wrm5 Since: Mar, 2014
2015-11-19 11:56:25

Also, you know, it had been like... ONE day. Even if he thought he was going to get a PM, he could have at least waited a few days.

GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
2015-11-19 13:19:16

(Never mind)

Edited by GnomeTitan
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
2015-11-19 13:43:59

Anyhoo, issue resolved, and as much as I want to peanut gallery this, there's not a lot to actually discuss here.

Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
wrm5 Since: Mar, 2014
2015-11-20 09:09:20

Honestly, I think we should lock that page.

I do believe that we COULD make a really interesting Self-Demonstrating page for Lucifer... a page that uses manipulation, Double Speak and Devil's Advocate arguments, arguing that everything good is evil and everything evil is good, and by the end of it the reader isn't sure what they even just read.

There's two problems though...

1. It would take a VERY skilled writer to pull it off, and while a lot of people seem to think they're that skilled most of them aren't, and it would be too easy for new editors to completely ruin it.

2. Even if we did pull it off, we'd probably just get our ads pulled for promoting Satanic/counterculture ideals or something.

So, yeah, I really don't see a reason to leave it open. It invites people to make messes and even if we did it RIGHT it wouldn't work.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
2015-11-20 13:02:20

^^ A page for The Devil himself might be a creative idea, but a page for the SMT Lucifer is an awful idea simply because there's very little consistency in his portrayals. Trying to force one is hopeless because it shifts game-to-game. And honestly, none of them would have a horribly interesting voice (though he's an interesting character).

Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
PDL (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2015-11-20 13:51:32

Personally, I'd like to see Self Demonstrating articles done away with entirely.

wrm5 Since: Mar, 2014
2015-11-20 13:57:09

↑↑ Right, should've clarified. I was talking about Satan in general, not specifically the Megami Tensei version.

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