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wrm5 Since: Mar, 2014
2015-04-12 18:47:53

If Disagraces is locked then it doesn't matter what he wants. Only a mod can edit it. :p

As for what to do... if he's being truly unreasonable the mods can forum-ban him and call him to the Edit Banned thread for a talk.

Edited by wrm5
Candi Since: Aug, 2012
2015-04-12 19:34:33

Reporting here is fine. No problems. You can holler (the little yellow triangle) one of his posts as well, reporting him and pointing the mods to a specific thread where he's causing problems.

Just remember: Report, don't engage. At all. Even though it's likely terribly tempting.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
ChrisX Since: Jan, 2001
2015-04-12 21:35:21

All right. The person in question is here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13955282570A87068500&page=540 His name is Penguin3470 and I suggest that you go page to page until page 547 to see how... 'insistent' he is...

The thing is, it's not his single post that deserves warning, it's his series of posts.

MorningStar1337 Since: Nov, 2012
2015-04-12 22:04:45

I'll report the posts on that page

Edit: is Self-Deprecation really grounds for reporting or did these posts already get reported and removed

Edited by MorningStar1337
ChrisX Since: Jan, 2001
2015-04-15 17:14:20

Uh not really, but this guy doesn't play by the rules, continue to act obnoxious to other friends instead of contributing healthily and not respecting others. I think mostly everyone was pretty much done with his shits and ignoring him after the breaking point at page 545 and he's just using Self-Deprecation to make himself look... 'pitiful' so deserving attention. And even then, when it's just a few words, it's just lazy.

His latest post? Seems like just unnecessary SPAM.

This is why I'm hesitant to just blatantly hit the Report button. This isn't severe crime like vandalism or flame war, but this guy is so ignorant about the surrounding, doesn't listen to others and he just feels like spamming when his myopic and bare opinions-thrusted-as-facts get ignored.

But please, CMIIW, because I don't want to end up doing something bad to an innocent person.

Candi Since: Aug, 2012
2015-04-15 17:56:56

On TV Tropes, that behavior IS worth reporting, because it's showing a refusal to play nice in the community and bad, self-centered behavior.

Rule #1 is "don't be a dick", and that guy is tapdancing the line at best.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
rodneyAnonymous Since: Aug, 2010
2015-04-15 18:33:02

"This is why I'm hesitant to just blatantly hit the Report button."

Starting an ATT comment thread is way more drastic than Hollering about a forum post.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
ChrisX Since: Jan, 2001
2015-04-15 19:20:03

Then you're saying I should just hit the Report button the next time he does things like that?

crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
2015-04-15 19:24:11

Yes

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
ChrisX Since: Jan, 2001
2015-04-15 20:12:22

All right, I'll give him one more chance. If he does that again, I'll just hit the button.

It's up to you mods if you would continue watch, or just wait until I hit that button...

rodneyAnonymous Since: Aug, 2010
2015-04-15 21:03:45

What?! I am not sure what you think the Holler button does. It just tells the mods that a post should be looked at. "I'll give him one more chance" doesn't make sense.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
ChrisX Since: Jan, 2001
2015-04-17 20:37:46

Well, exactly what you think of about the Holler button. I understand that.

When I said 'I'll give him one more chance', it means that I will just wait until he posts again and see whether he mellows down and then plays by the rules and getting along with others instead of doing self-centered behaviors. If he doesn't do that, then I will hit the Holler button.

Which, speaking of that, he just did. And from the look of it, it's just spamming nonsense instead of getting back to the good graces. So I'm just gonna press it.

Have mercy on me...

wrm5 Since: Mar, 2014
2015-04-17 20:47:38

...again, not sure what you think the "Holler" button does. "Have mercy on me?" You're talking like you just put a bounty on his life...

The holler button is not harsh. You're NOT "doing something bad to an innocent person." Literally ALL it does is request the mods take a look at it and the mods here are generally lenient compared to most places on the web. Worst case scenario they take him to Edit Banned, talk with him for a bit, and let him go.

(Well, unless he does something to convince them to perma-ban him, but in that case he's not innocent.)

Edited by wrm5
rodneyAnonymous Since: Aug, 2010
2015-04-17 21:04:45

"Mercy"? Just trying to help :)

Whereas only mods can see (and respond to) a Holler, many other tropers see ATT questions and discussion. There aren't even any moderator comments so far in this "thread". It would be more effective to report forum misbehavior with a Holler than by posting in ATT. Sometimes there is mod response here, but that's not guaranteed; generally it's for answers and comments from fellow tropers, and there is some reporting of wiki-related (that is, non-forum) issues like vandalism.

Edited by rodneyAnonymous Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
ChrisX Since: Jan, 2001
2015-04-17 21:37:49

Uh, I said 'Have mercy on me' because I am hoping that I'm not accusing the wrong person undeserving. So it's more like it's my head that is in danger. After that time I was edit-banned because of innocently not knowing the rules about using the mod's name, I got a little too careful.

wrm5 Since: Mar, 2014
2015-04-17 21:53:33

...wait, what rule is there about using a mod's name?

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
2015-04-18 02:04:03

Also, keep in mind that different moderators focus on different parts of the site. Thus, forum side issues are best reported with the forum side tools.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
wrm5 Since: Mar, 2014
2015-04-18 08:15:38

EDIT: Nevermind, it was explained to me over PM.

Edited by wrm5
ChrisX Since: Jan, 2001
2015-04-20 15:51:52

... So I was looking at the Edit/Banned topic and saw that the same Penguin used to get suspended and then lifted (for other reasons). Does this mean he didn't learn the previous lesson or he was hitting some new problem?

Candi Since: Aug, 2012
2015-04-20 17:15:28

Doesn't matter. Multiple suspensions mean he'd better make a very good argument for reinstatement. That applies to everyone.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
ChrisX Since: Jan, 2001
2015-04-26 04:56:17

We gave him a chance. And he didn't listen and kept doing the same old song to another character. Like he thinks that a Broken Base character means it is a devilish character that deserves to be put into the Disgraces. This has gotten to the point that we are considering to eventually make the Disgraces page locked, because it has the same problem as Complete Monster. We are still working on to see who should be put out or not, but we'll let you know if we're finished and the Disgraces is ready for lock.

But still! This Penguin... we of the Trope Pantheons will be grateful if something is done to this guy. Everytime he pushes his opinion and being unapologetic at that, he pretty much draws a Flame War...

I have also used the Holler options on both his posts.

Edited by ChrisX
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
2015-04-26 09:13:51

He's been forum banned now.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
rodneyAnonymous Since: Aug, 2010
2015-04-26 14:08:59

"I have also used the Holler options on both his posts."

That probably had a way bigger effect than posting here. Please use forum-side tools to report forum-side behavior.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
ChrisX Since: Jan, 2001
2015-04-26 15:37:34

I'll keep that in mind. And THANK YOU, Mod team!

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