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Florien Since: Aug, 2019
2025-08-14 23:16:47

I'm unclear whether there's actually a serious concern here, inadequate crosswicking maybe, but like, the pattern of being quick to launch seems like a minor one, the only severe issue is with the last one there. Has this alleged refusal to respond to questions been brought up with them at any point before?

In either case, if you're saying the contributions are mostly fine, what are you hoping to achieve with this report that you couldn't achieve by bringing it up with them first? Or have you already done so?

WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2025-08-14 23:29:09

I mean... yes? It's the TLP, everything takes place in the discussions, I'm not sure how else to confront them about their refusal to respond to questions beyond what I'm already doing which is asking repeatedly and discussing the issues openly with other tropers. It's not like they aren't reading the comments, so there's zero reason why we should have to specifically tell them to respond to questions. It's quite literally just how the TLP is supposed to work — you resolve every concern before you launch, you engage with criticisms, you acknowledge questions. See TLP Guidelines. These are basic rules and etiquette we're dealing with. And people have gotten themselves TLP suspended for not listening to criticisms or failing to engage at all.

Like, not to be rude, but you don't seem like you've engaged with the TLP at all since 2020; things have changed a lot in 5 years, and we're really trying to crack down on improper etiquette and rushed launches. I'm there all the time — I have a very strong understanding of the rules of that area and what sponsors are expected to do / how confrontation works over there.

Edited by WarJay77 Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
ilovewildkratts1 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
2025-08-15 01:18:53

I could try to ping them here so they're aware of this query and they can chime in. If they don't respond, then perhaps a PM would be more direct. They seem very civil, so if they see all the issues laid out neatly like this, they can address them.

Edited by ilovewildkratts1 Wuewuewuewuewueing my way to the bank.
ilovewildkratts1 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
2025-08-15 01:20:05

Edited my previous post, let me try again with the ping.

~cybirddude

Wuewuewuewuewueing my way to the bank.
WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2025-08-15 01:24:14

^^ Well, I guess that's done now. I never really see the point in pinging people over for TLP issues because as noted it isn't like we haven't tried repeatedly to get responses in the past? It's not like editing errors where outside notifiers are necessary; these conversations are nothing new. If I'd thought a ping would be productive, I'd have honestly done so already. But, we'll see how this goes I guess. (Pinging tropers, or having tropers pinged by people who aren't me, to my own ATT queries also kind of makes me pretty anxious due to past bad experiences in this part of the site, so, eh... that's not as important but it's the other big reason I held off)

Edited by WarJay77 Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Buck Since: Aug, 2015
2025-08-15 01:53:55

I remember them saying in the comment section of one of their previous drafts that they are a student or in education, could that be the reason why they haven't been responding or doing what you said? Maybe they were trying to do too much at once, and some things fell to the sidelines because of other deadlines and responsibilities (not excusing it, just trying to look at it rationally).

I'm not entirely sure, wait and see what Cybirddude says. I shouldn't be making any assumptions; I might be using outdated information for this.

Edited by Buck
cybirddude (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2025-08-15 05:16:39

I have been pinged twice and am willing to respond.

For my Preemptive Threat Elimination I've made an edit that stated that heroic examples are now allowed and that said action tends to be morally gray.

When it comes to Does Not Like Dogs, I've honestly considered deleting the trope because as has been pointed out, it doesn't seem like something that is worth creating a trope about.

WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2025-08-15 08:45:41

That's appreciated, but I'd feel better generally if you made the effort to respond faster on the drafts. It's frustrating and concerning having to really press for any changes to be made

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