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Ultimatum (Old as dirt)
2025-05-04 06:13:47

yeah,cut it

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rasterax Since: Sep, 2023
2025-05-04 06:19:48

I'm seeing a fair bit of objective info there (new show runners, new art style, lowered number of main characters — seems like it's a notable enough break with tradition in the franchise) that could easily be rewritten and retained instead of outright cutting everything.

ilovewildkratts1 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
2025-05-04 06:39:04

In terms of accuracy, I can't say for sure whether it was a refresh because, AFAIK, Yes 5 and GoGo are some of the most popular seasons in Japan to date and I'm not sure if that was always the case or not (the Presumed Flop entry seems more accurate though). And I don't know much about the inner workings of the franchise.

But I'm in agreement with ^ that that bit could probably be rewritten entirely. Some research would probably have to be done on merch sales to find out what actually happened; providing links to said research may help in cleanup.

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Drag-O-Drawgon Since: Oct, 2024
2025-05-07 18:18:50

All I can find on merchandise sales is Wikipedia's page on Pretty Cure and the sites linked in the citations. I could not find anything on TV ratings, if those matter.

Going by Wikipedia, Gogo (2008) outperformed Yes 5 (2007) slightly, and both numbers are a little low compared to Max heart (2005) and Fresh (2009), but nothing that implies a near franchise killer. (unsure how they did compared to Splash Star since its figure is Bandai toys only)

Drag-O-Drawgon Since: Oct, 2024
2025-05-16 18:12:37

I found a chart of TV ratings for the earlier seasons and it does show Go Go having lower ratings than Yes 5 and Fresh, but not by a super large margin, and some later seasons get even lower ratings without being deemed near franchise killers.

Combined with the merch sales from the wikipedia page, I feel like any mention of Go Go being a franchise killer should be removed.

As for the work page description, it could probably be cut down to:

Fresh overhauled the Pretty Cure franchise after the previous series Yes Pretty Cure 5 GoGo. Much of the core creative staff was cycled out, leading to new show runners, a new art style that is distinct from the previous five series, and a new composer brought over from Fairy Tail. It also lowered the number of main chracters to three.

ilovewildkratts1 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
2025-05-17 15:26:11

That's a much better rewrite. I'd say remove the bit about GoGo killing the franchise, as well, since there are two sources that show otherwise. If a troper contests it via PM or the Discussion page, you have proof to back your edit up.

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Drag-O-Drawgon Since: Oct, 2024
2025-05-17 20:39:09

I made the edit to Fresh precure's description, removed all the mentions of GoGo being a franchise killer (and similar statements) that I could remember existed, and restored the Presumed Flop crosswick, citing this ATT in the edit reason on all edits.

Closing as resolved.

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