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ilovewildkratts1 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
2024-12-17 19:58:55

They're already engaging in an edit war. You removing "both" would only push it further, so I wouldn't do that.

Did you include a message within the notifier (aside from the already-attached one), maybe asking why Amoridere felt they should go with both? If you didn't, it might be worth discussing the matter with them over PM.

Edited by ilovewildkratts1 Wuewuewuewuewueing my way to the bank.
RedBerryBlueCherry Since: Dec, 2015
2024-12-17 22:02:54

It's not as much as they're going with both reasons as much as they're not realizing adding "both" to the entry would be redundant, as again, I feel the usage of "more upset about" implies both reasons anyway.

Edited by RedBerryBlueCherry
ilovewildkratts1 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
2024-12-18 05:04:54

Personally, as the entry is written, I don't see "more upset about" as an implication that both reasons apply. Usually it's an either/or thing and leaving it at that implies that people familiar with the work have a choice in the matter as to how they interpret the scene. If the entry read "more upset about either" then it would make more sense, at least IMO.

I'll PM Amoridere here to see if they want to discuss the matter in this query.

~Amoridere

Edited by ilovewildkratts1 Wuewuewuewuewueing my way to the bank.
dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
2024-12-18 06:26:49

"More" upset about implies they are upset about both reasons to me, just there's debate about which one is more significant. The addition of "or both" is meaningless in terms of an alternate character interpretation.

Amoridere Since: Dec, 2015
2024-12-18 07:16:47

Oh, hi. I s'ppose I could have given more of a better reason in the "Edit reasons".

See, bein' someone of that diagnosis, his reaction to the letter felt like a possible "Both" situation.

If you suggest to an autistic person note  that they be cured, that's gonna piss 'em off, however, if you use someone as a case study sans askin' them, you're gonna piss 'em off.

Regardless, they'd be feeling very betrayed if someone they thought of as a friend did either of those things, so it's possible it might've been a combo of both.

Adding another layer to this, knowin' what we know about Max and his diagnosis, he's already used to getting mistreated, ostracized, etc, so insinuating that he be cured is going to really do it for him, however, on another note, with him being a private person, Mary using him as a case study in a book that's set to be released be a violation of his privacy.

Edited by Amoridere oyasumi
RedBerryBlueCherry Since: Dec, 2015
2024-12-18 08:06:15

That's not the point. "More upset about" in the original statement all-but-outright already states he was pissed for both reasons, it's just on, you know, what he was more upset about. Adding "both" would be redundant.

Edited by RedBerryBlueCherry
Vilui Since: May, 2009
RedBerryBlueCherry Since: Dec, 2015
2024-12-18 08:55:15

Honestly I myself am not so sure on that.

ilovewildkratts1 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
2024-12-18 09:51:17

If you're unsure about whether it counts, you can take it to the Is This an Example thread.

Wuewuewuewuewueing my way to the bank.
RedBerryBlueCherry Since: Dec, 2015
2024-12-18 14:44:04

All I got was that it was considered ZCE, sooooo if I'll be honest I dunno where to go from there.....

Edited by RedBerryBlueCherry
ilovewildkratts1 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
2024-12-19 02:03:12

I can understand that. The more context there is for an entry, the better it is (so long as it's not to word-vomit levels). I'd say expand on it further if there weren't already an edit war going on and Amoridere wasn't trying to state their reasoning.

You can maybe try bumping your post in the ITAE thread and seeing if you can seek more consensus.

Wuewuewuewuewueing my way to the bank.
RedBerryBlueCherry Since: Dec, 2015
2024-12-19 18:59:58

Hilariously enough, the original addition was word-vomit levels before it was edited to the other extreme.

I'll try and talk about it further there.

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