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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
2024-08-18 13:50:50

It should be removed in my opinion.

Also, the troper who added it in the first place, Slangorazer, is edit warring. A second troper deleted it with lengthy explanations about why Mace didnt count, and Slangorazer added it back. They also tweaked their own entry to further bash Windu by saying he comes across as a prick.

Theriocephalus Since: Aug, 2014
2024-08-18 14:00:37

Agreed on both counts. It's misuse for the reasons that jaydude explained in detail in their edit reason, and Slangorazer is edit warring.

Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
2024-08-18 15:22:24

Depends, how is it unintentional?

This is already under UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.Live Action Films

Even this has begun to have be re-consider how unintentional it is given they contributed to their demise/Anakin's fall. Any reason worth singling Mace out?

StarSword Since: Sep, 2011
2024-08-19 07:32:22

Bearing in mind that my personal view of the Clone Wars is essentially Evil Versus Evil, I think it is indeed possible to single out particular characters who are meant to be heroic and don't come off that way for reasons particular to them. With TCW!Mace (as opposed to Matt Stover's Legends version of Mace who is genuinely likable and heroic), I'm most familiar with the Boba Fett thing where he basically blew off having killed a young boy's father in front of him. Even though it was a justifiable homicide in context, being so flippant about it to Boba was still a dick move.

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
2024-08-19 08:27:11

TBC!Mace I don't believe was unintentional given part of the point of TBC was how the Jedi's actions/attitude was turning the galaxy against them to the point they were so dismissed by the Original Trilogy era.

Any argument for being unintentional?

emeriin Since: Jan, 2001
2024-08-19 08:51:54

I agree even before the cartoon that it was intentional. Anakin obviously has agency, but their constant dismissal partly drove him to being groomed by Palpatine.

Forenperser Since: Mar, 2012
2024-08-19 15:13:32

Mace was clearly designed as a flawed figure who is kind of a self-righteous jerk, despite his overall heroism, so yeah, not unintentional at all.

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