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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
2024-07-08 07:45:37

We have a thread. It's generally where these get discussed. It doesn't help much, since it's so low trafficked. And the users making poor SD pages generally wouldn't be checking random forums for approval beforehand.

I still wish the site would lock the Self-Demonstrating/ namespace so that new pages can't be made except through TLP. It would save everyone so much headache.

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Amonimus (Sergeant)
2024-07-08 09:26:10

If admins fix the namespace tool (brought up here), it can happen.

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DongwaChan (Life not ruined yet)
2024-07-08 11:17:33

Honestly, I'd rather have the thread now focus on helping users write Self-Demonstrating Character Pages. That way, we could filter out which ideas work and which don't.

WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2024-07-08 11:28:42

You're missing the point.

We don't want people to keep writing them. The cleanup thread is a cleanup thread for a reason; you can pitch your ideas but we're not going to switch gears and encourage these.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
2024-07-08 11:48:52

I wouldn't even go that far, I don't think we as a site are discouraging them if they're good.

The real problem is that if they're the kind of person that's going to write one (or more) that blatantly doesn't meet the requirements of a Self-Demonstrating page, they're probably not the type to go to an obscure thread to try to pitch it and seek feedback. If they were, then people wouldn't make pages that wind up cut because they don't have a unique voice.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2024-07-08 12:03:13

I'm not saying we're "discouraging" them but to actively switch to encouraging them goes against the point of the thread. It's even been suggested to pre-lock the namespace due to how bad they often are. The more we get, the more work we ultimately have. People already can and do get feedback there, but "helping people write them" assumes that writing more good ones is even possible. It's a very difficult namespace and it's hard to explain what makes a "good" page to people.

Edited by WarJay77 Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
DongwaChan (Life not ruined yet)
2024-07-08 13:39:56

I'm guessing we should just lock the namespace then for now.

DongwaChan (Life not ruined yet)
2024-07-10 11:44:15

Honestly, now that I think of it, Trope Launch Pad could be a decent way of solving this issue.

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