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lapistier Since: Sep, 2015
2024-02-19 18:34:47

I've done similar in the past so I'm curious on an answer about this as well, but from what I understand as long as you adhere to Weblinks Are Not Examples and the trope examples themselves can stand alone without the need to click the video link, you're in the clear. If there are examples in your video that aren't listed as trope examples, you could add them to the page.

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Amonimus (Sergeant)
2024-02-19 20:47:23

Self-promotion isn't an issue, the issue however is that information should be used from the work directly, so it doesn't leave much room for reviewers/fanfics/mods. However, it can be resolved if the video essay is treated as own work (derivative fanwork) and is mentioned separately.

Could pend for more replies.

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PeabodySam (Edited uphill both ways)
2024-02-22 15:46:16

lapistier: Of course. The examples as currently written can stand on their own without needing a link to the video. This would just serve to supplement what's already written (see below).

Amonimus: My video documents and directly shows the primary sources within the original body of work; in this case, the various catalogs, comics, magazine articles, books, video games, and web media for LEGO Adventurers. Anyone can independently look up this information on their own and verify it... but with this media stretching across 25+ years (and this video having taken about 4 years to make), it isn't realistic to expect everyone to actually do so. That's why this video was made: it can act as a bibliography in video format. I can see this being useful here on TV Tropes since (unlike Wikipedia) citations are rarely required.

So, for example, we currently have this trope for Johnny Thunder on the characters page:

  • Dub Name Change: Although his name was the most consistent of the Adventurers (with most international media calling him by his original Danish name Johnny Thunder, or a literal translation thereof), he was also known as Sam Grant in the United Kingdom, Villám Tamás ("Thomas Lightning") in Hungary, Joe Freemann in Germany, Jones in Japan, Hjälten (literally "Hero") in Sweden, and Jonny Explorador ("Jonny Explorer") in Spain.

This has enough information and context: a character originally known as Johnny Thunder is alternatively named X, Y, Z, etc. in these other countries. But if you were wondering where these names were used (and wanted to make sure someone on TV Tropes wasn't just making it up), there are no further citations or sources described here beyond the countries of origin. We could list the individual sources here (Bricks 'n' Pieces Magazine, the Hungarian LEGO.com, World Club Magazine/Die Jagd Nach Dem Pharaonenschatz, etc.) but that could bloat the example with so much extra information. That's where this video comes in; providing a link to it would answer those questions for anyone who is curious enough to ask.

As far as this video being treated as a "derivative fanwork"... well, this is a video I've made, scripted, narrated, and edited without any input from The LEGO Group. But unlike a fanfic or a mod, there isn't a lot of "original" content made by me in this video, and what little "original" stuff there is would not be the reason why I'd post it here. It's not a fanwork that is meant to stand on its own or even merit a Web Video article. It's more akin to a literature review (not to be confused with a "review" in the "critic's opinion" sense): its purpose is to compile and summarize preexisting data.

But with all that said, if it's better to not link the video at all, then I understand and I will follow the proper etiquette.

... until SUDDENLY DINOSAURS!
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