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Arctimon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2023-10-17 18:54:37

I sent them a notifier for their rude edit reasons. Their troper page says they don't respond to messages, so I guess we'll just see what happens.

MissConduct (Septatroper)
2023-10-17 19:43:10

Looking through their edit history, everything prior to October 2023 seems alright... but since the Israel-Hamas war started they've gotten a lot more testy (although the "zionist" remark on their troper page has been there since June). They've also been putting rude edit messages on their edits to Bones recap pages:

"Whichever MRA keeps adding these entries, do it under YMMV. In this case, yes, it’s objectively true that men make up the vast vast VAST majority of people in dog fighting."

(on changing a Narm entry about misused Norwegian into Bilingual Bonus): "It’s not narm. There needs to be a “European tears” category so Europeans can hypocritically complain about portrayals of their countries while simultaneously depicting the US, Canada, Mexico, etc etc incorrectly. Oh well"

Based on their output, I assume they're a troper who's always had Palestinian leanings but the new war has radicalized them (on this and their other ideological leanings).

That said, while I don't condone the harsh edit reasons on their removal, whoever put those two Hamas Narm examples up was asking for a Flame War.

Arctimon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2023-10-17 19:46:56

Yes, the examples were bad (they were also tropeslashed examples as well), but they can tone down the language a bit.

I also just noticed that they added the bit about not responding to messages on their troper page today, ironically enough.

Vilui Since: May, 2009
2023-10-17 19:50:08

Bones S 4 E 21 Mayhem On A Cross is the page with the Norwegian example, by the way. It should either be changed back or removed; it can't be left as-is since Bilingual Bonus is not YMMV.

MissConduct (Septatroper)
2023-10-17 19:57:19

Okay, looking at the history for the Narm pages, they've both actually been there since at least 2018. They aren't new, but my point still stands. I'm surprised they didn't cause trouble earlier.

Re: The Bilingual Bonus example, change it back to Narm, which is what it was in the first place. "(X) tears" is another dogwhistle-y phrase that suggests it wasn't a change made for good reasons.

Edited by MissConduct
AegisP Since: Oct, 2014
2023-10-17 21:34:59

Has anyone seen this tropers page because uuuuuuuuuuuuhhh...

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
PresidentBrit Since: Jan, 2015
2023-10-17 22:54:07

They can't keep their story straight.

Do they accidentally come across as mean because they're neurodivergent, or do they mean every word they say?

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Adannor (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2023-10-18 00:36:10

^ My read is that they mean everything they say and can't muster any apologetic feelings if anybody else dislikes that. And then they run into mad extremism.

GastonRabbit MOD (General of TV Troops)
2023-10-18 03:13:54

Suspended them and cut their Tropers/ page.

You can't just say "perchance".
Zarina Since: Aug, 2014
2023-10-18 08:47:51

The Narm entries can stay gone, but should any of the other things they cut be restored?

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
2023-10-18 09:07:26

Any individual examples can be discussed, but AFAIK every deletion here has been addressed.

The narm deletions were... well, not even Right for the Wrong Reasons, just "Right for the rude reasons." The Norwegian example has been rightfully restored and the Bones MRA example mentioned is rightfully gone since it was an improperly written example.

Edited by Larkmarn Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
Zarina Since: Aug, 2014
2023-10-18 10:13:36

There was nothing else that jumped out at me, but I'll bring up anything that might later on.

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