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It's not a Karma Houdini, they paid a price even if they felt it was worth it. It might still be a case of The Bad Guy Wins.
Though this question would be better suited to the "Is this an example?" thread
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i think we have Pyrrhic Victory to cover that, so it probably wouldn't need to be Karma Houdini
It may also count as Meaningless Villain Victory, depending on the morality of the person who dies.

If a character dies getting what they exactly wanted are they still a Karma Houdini?
Say, Junko letting herself executed, Ragyo and Nui's death etc.
Edited by Mr-ex777