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StarSword Since: Sep, 2011
2023-09-04 21:12:00

What you need is at least three tropes common between them to make a franchise-level page valid.

v I said "a franchise-level page", not "a page in the Franchise namespace". Sorry if that wasn't clear.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2023-09-04 22:08:41

^ Well... Also three separate works in different mediums, which this may lack.

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Amonimus (Sergeant)
2023-09-04 22:11:58

That's for Franchise pages. I'm not sure if it would work for WesternAnimation / Hellaverse but it needs a draft first.

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fanman Since: Feb, 2022
2023-09-04 22:38:49

I do have a draft where I display more than three common tropes:

The Hellaverse is a Shared Universe created by Vivienne Medrano encompassing Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss. It centers around the denizens of Hell, which is currently undergoing an overpopulation crisis, though the main characters in both shows have the opposite goals.

While Hazbin Hotel has been picked up by A24, Helluva Boss is free to view on Medrano's YouTube channel.

The setting as a whole provides these tropes:

  • Artistic License – Religion: Like is common in media, inverted crosses are littered throughout Hell. Inverted crosses are actually holy in their own right, being how Saint Peter was crucified by his own request, due to believing himself unworthy of dying in the same way as Jesus.
  • Black Comedy: The setting's main brand of humor is the type that seeks to cross the lines twice.
  • Cast Full of Gay: It'd be easier to list the number of named characters in both works who don't express attraction to the same sex or show hints of it.
  • Crapsack World: To nobody's surprise, Hell. This is a world where drugs are freely available in vending machines, clout is everything, the truly depraved are allowed to accumulate power and oppress the relatively decent, and society is ruled by the elitist Goetia class and the uncaring Lucifer. However, Helluva Boss reveals that Earth is also this, being populated by cruel and idiotic humans, and heavily implies that Heaven is little better than either.
  • Satan: Hell is ruled by Lucifer, who is not the same entity as Satan, in accordance to the classification by Peter Binsfeld. Lucifer is the ruler of the Pride Ring and Hell overall, while Satan rules the Wrath Ring.
  • World of Jerkass: Hell is this, unsurprising, since it's Hell where all the bad people end up, plus the native inhabitants are pretty hostile. Helluva reveals Earth is this as well.

Edited by fanman
fanman Since: Feb, 2022
2023-09-04 22:53:37

Should it go under the Western Animation or Web Animation namespace, since Helluva is still YouTube original while Hazbin was picked up by an official studio?

Amonimus (Sergeant)
2023-09-04 23:01:34

Right, Web Animation. Hazbin was still originally a web episode. If they remake the Pilot, the series may be worth splitting, but we're not there yet.

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