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StFan Since: Jan, 2001
2023-07-20 13:34:36

Yeah, there is some misrepresentation here. The "she is never offered a second chance" part is rather unsubstantiated, considering she's always portrayed as unrepentant.

Javertshark13 Since: Mar, 2011
2023-07-20 19:58:25

I felt it was too late by this point for the show to say an “unrepentant” villain could never be redeemed. There were quite a few villains (e.g. Starlight) who committed comparable crimes and showed no remorse in their first appearance, but Twilight kept trying to get through to them, and she approved of Starlight trying to redeem Chrysalis in Season 6 despite her never showing remorse, but with Cozy she didn’t. She never asked her if she’d be willing to change, she just asked her why she did it, then told her she was wrong and that was it.

That said, if this isn’t really what the trope is about then I’d agree with changing it.

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
2023-07-20 20:42:31

^Regardless of when and why she did, she still refused to do what the Aesop said would redeem her and paid the price. So the Aesop wasn't broken, the unfair things about it are separate things already under Karmic Overkill and Unintentionally Sympathetic.

I'd say the Broken Aesop is the Season 7 finale's about getting the full story and not assuming the worst before deeming one irredeemable, as they were portrayed as right for deeming Cozy irredeemable despite not making that effort (other villains are grey area given the questionable canonicity of their comic backstories). But last I recall BA is about contradicting it's internal logic so later Aesops/logic contradicting it don't count. But BA is due for a TRS, we can ask if the later breakage counts.

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