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Arctimon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2023-07-15 20:31:56

It's entirely possible he hasn't been added yet because...well, no one's added him yet.

wootzits (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2023-07-15 20:36:03

He's here under the name of Thouzer.

NKgamer Since: Jan, 2001
2023-07-15 21:03:54

Thank you to the person who replied above. Is that a TYPO?! Or is that one of his other names?? Edit: No, definitely NOT a typo. He's called Thouzer in the whole character description. But his proper name is SOUTHER! What gives here??

Edited by NKgamer
WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2023-07-15 21:06:43

Translation differences, perhaps?

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NKgamer Since: Jan, 2001
2023-07-15 21:18:48

🔝Yeah most likely a Dub Name Change but still the name should be Souther due to the tvtropes rule that if an anime or manga series has an official English dub the English dub name is used. I mean they could've put both names as that's allowed too. That way there'd be no confusion. Edit: I mean in every example, including in the quotes on the franchises main page no less he's called Souther, so anyone unfamiliar with his other names like myself would be completely lost if his name was changed since it doesn't follow the name the examples gave. I also don't want to straight up change it as since the name is also in the folder title the format could get messed up if i'm not careful.

Edited by NKgamer
Excessive-Menace (Fifth Year at Tropey's)
2023-07-15 22:00:15

Perhaps you can bring this up in the English Localization Cleanup thread.

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amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
2023-07-15 22:02:07

If Souther is the name used in the English dubs and it's used on all other pages, then I think you'd be ok to change mentions of Thouzer to Souther on the character page. Just Ctrl + F (or Cmd + F for mac) to find all instances of Thouzer on the editing screen and paste in Souther. It'll get the folder title as well.

NKgamer Since: Jan, 2001
2023-07-15 22:05:38

Thanks for the suggestion but I do everything on my smartphone (not so smart when it comes to things like this) can someone run a check on who put the name in and when it was done? Some people are sensitive over things like this and I don't want to cause an edit war.

Edited by NKgamer
Excessive-Menace (Fifth Year at Tropey's)
2023-07-15 22:15:19

^ Checking the Edit History of Characters.Fist Of The North Star First Series, the earliest change from "Souther" to "Thouzer" was in 2014 by advent_child. I don't know if they're still active on the site or not.

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NKgamer Since: Jan, 2001
2023-07-15 22:24:09

That's 9 years ago! I think if a 9 year-old entry was changed they wouldn't really notice would they? Edit: I'm sorry if this sounds super lazy (it is) but can someone change the name back from Thouzer to Souther. Changing each entry, especially for a key villain with a solid amount of tropes, would take awhile without the handy shortcut described above. (Also I AM about to go to bed)

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homogenized Since: Oct, 2009
2023-07-15 23:24:58

^^ advent_child was active as recent as two days ago.

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NKgamer Since: Jan, 2001
2023-07-15 23:41:23

^ Still....can somebody else change it? The whole name switch is confusing and with my smartphone it would take too long to systematically switch every Thouzer same to Souther....

Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2023-07-16 00:33:13

Ok first of all our This Is a Wiki policy applies here. You cannot really keep posting in hopes that others will do the edits you want. If it's been on the page for nine years, then it can stay that way until someone has both the capabilities and willpower to change it.

Second, before enacting any major changes, I think this should go to further discussion with the linked Localization cleanup to confirm that "Souther" is the localization most in line with our rules (since it's a little 'take my word for it' here so far). A discussion has already started by the OP there, please continue talking about it there.

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