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wingedcatgirl MOD (Holding A Herring)
18th May, 2023 06:57:35 AM

The usual criteria for splitting a page is length. The current pages, if they were to be merged, come out as 108566 characters.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
18th May, 2023 07:54:51 AM

What does that tell us?

Theharbo Since: Oct, 2011
18th May, 2023 07:55:29 AM

What's the cutoff? I seem to remember seeing during editing that it would inform you if it was time to split.

Inky100 Since: Dec, 2020
18th May, 2023 08:43:35 AM

Just to mention here, I was the one who made the subpages, and I'm already done with the split (I'm not planning to create any more subpages for the film). I created the subpages for easier navigation because the main page was getting too large to list all the tropes and navigate through them. I've already done this with plenty of other works in the past.

Edited by Inky100 A lot of good you did me.
Theharbo Since: Oct, 2011
18th May, 2023 08:49:54 AM

As far as I am aware, you don't split pages until the editing window tells you to; until then, you can still put them in folders if the page is too long to navigate, but page splits should only be used if the page starts being too big and causing load problems on lower-RAM PC's.

Edited by Theharbo
Amonimus (Sergeant)
18th May, 2023 09:03:32 AM

~108k means the page is large, but not enough to warrant subpaging.

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Willbyr MOD (Y2K)
18th May, 2023 09:05:44 AM

Agreed. Rather than making separate subpages, the trope list should've been broken up into multiple folders on the work page, like A - E, F - J, K - O, P - T, U - Z

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
18th May, 2023 10:39:04 AM

^ It was like that before today.

Piterpicher (Series 2)
18th May, 2023 11:10:38 AM

I have to agree that these should be merged. It's a single 102 min film from 1999 that might have a lot of tropes, but it doesn't warrant subpages.

Edited by Piterpicher Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods Of Incremental)
Tabs MOD Since: Jan, 2001
18th May, 2023 11:18:31 AM

Agreeing that a hard split is unnecessary for this one.

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
18th May, 2023 04:03:55 PM

Inky 100 and I agreed to revert the subpaging.

As for future discussions of this kind, if 100,000 characters don't justify moving content to subpages, what number would?

Edited by eroock
Tabs MOD Since: Jan, 2001
18th May, 2023 09:58:17 PM

The too-long page warning, IMO

Inky100 Since: Dec, 2020
19th May, 2023 12:02:53 AM

May I consent to change the Wasn't That Fun? and Your Favorite entries to how I had edited them during the split, please? After the merge, I noticed that they were reverted back to how they were pre-split. Just to show you, here's how I had edited them.

Pre-split:

  • Wasn't That Fun?: The friendly aliens' method of transporting the protagonists to their ship can be described roughly as "fly them into orbit (and through a Swirly Energy Thingy) at high speed with nothing but a huge blob of jello to shield them." Everyone looks thoroughly traumatized and nauseated by this experience, except for the engineer... who just remarks "That was a hell of a thing."
  • Your Favorite: Played for laughs. The Thermians provide the favorite food of the characters, which is why Sir Alexander Dane gets stuck with blood ticks.

My edit:

  • Wasn't That Fun?: The Thermians' method of transporting the crew to their ship can be described roughly as "fly them into orbit (and through a Swirly Energy Thingy) at high speed with nothing but a huge blob of jello to shield them." Everyone looks thoroughly traumatized and nauseated by this experience, except for Fred, who just remarks "That was a hell of a thing."
  • Your Favorite: Played for laughs. The Thermians provide the crew the favorite food of their characters, which is why Alexander gets stuck with blood ticks.

Other than the fact I had done them during the split, they have nothing to do with it. They're just rewording of my own to make the text more comprehensible.

Edited by Inky100 A lot of good you did me.
Amonimus (Sergeant)
19th May, 2023 12:22:10 AM

We've agreed to re-merge, not to revert changes, so any post-split changes should have been saved as well.

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Inky100 Since: Dec, 2020
19th May, 2023 12:48:47 AM

Already changed the entries to my edits.

A lot of good you did me.
FrozenEvilInALake Since: Oct, 2018
19th May, 2023 06:48:57 AM

Does anyone know how many characters it does take before the too-long page warning is triggered?

Edited by FrozenEvilInALake
Amonimus (Sergeant)
19th May, 2023 06:55:13 AM

500k in HTML, some wiki markup are heavier than others.

Edited by Amonimus TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
eroock Since: Sep, 2012
19th May, 2023 07:01:50 AM

If I download the Galaxy Quest page, it says 937k.

Amonimus (Sergeant)
19th May, 2023 09:52:51 AM

HTML in the article block. The red banner will tell you anyway when it's close.

Edited by Amonimus TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
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