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Amonimus (Sergeant)
2023-04-07 22:56:23

I dunno if there is a notifier, but to me it does border on edit war as Anicomicgeek again refers to trope image despite it being removed, so I'd let a mod answer.

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amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
2023-04-07 22:58:01

you'd be fine editing it again to remove the word cruft and the mention to the page image since you'd be enforcing site guidelines.

You can send it using the word cruft notifier and also link to How to Write an Example, pointing specifically to the "Example Don'ts" folder, because the very first bullet there says "Don't Refer to Other Items on the Page...Avoid mentioning that an example provides the page image or quote, since that should be obvious to anyone who sees the top of the page, and relying on these things for context might cause issues if they're changed."

Edited by amathieu13
mlsmithca (Edited uphill both ways)
2023-04-08 14:22:26

Well, on the assumption that this counts as reversing an edit to make the entry compliant with wiki policy, I've removed the offending words, citing this ATT thread in the edit reason; per amathieu13's suggestion, I've also sent Anicomicgeek a customised word cruft notifier with a link to How to Write an Example (and a direct quote of the relevant paragraph). That should resolve this.

VintageEmma Since: Jan, 2023
2023-04-08 15:39:40

How the heck is "in fact" Word Cruft? It doesn't strike me as one, and it seems perfectly natural to write it in a sentence.

homogenized Since: Oct, 2009
2023-04-08 17:20:32

In fact, it's usually unnecessary to include "in fact". Usually one can remove it from a sentence and the sentence would, in fact, mean the exact same thing.

Edited by homogenized
Vilui Since: May, 2009
2023-04-08 21:14:37

"In fact" is a connective; it serves to clarify the train of thought running through a paragraph. While not specifically mentioned on the Word Cruft page, it is prone to misuse because some people want to exaggerate how incredible and surprising their example is. And if a paragraph begins with "in fact", it's probably natter.

I agree with removing it in this instance, but it shouldn't be zapped on sight; just check whether it's being used in a meaningful way or not.

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