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Amonimus (Sergeant)
2023-01-15 07:45:02

If it's warranted, start a thread.

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Arctimon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2023-01-15 07:46:10

Not sure where you're getting the idea that they haven't been edited since the movie came out; the histories of the last edits can be seen when you click on the page. The Funny and WMG pages haven't been touched in a year, but everything else had been edited in the past few months. But that's also to be expected for a movie that came out a decade ago.

I looked over the main page, and yes, there are a few things that can be fixed (mostly ZC Es and the like), but I'm not seeing things like opinions and stuff on the main page. At least nothing is flagged as YMMV. Any particular example you can bring up?

ovskii Since: Jun, 2018
2023-01-15 07:57:50

^ I more mean that it hasn't gone through a serious revision in a long time, sorry for the lack of clarity there.

Here are some questionable entries I have found (I will add more as I find them):

  • Fantastic Aesop: Also, while there may be belligerents on either side (The Red Death and Stoick), they and their attitudes don't necessarily speak for everyone, and peaceful reconciliation is possible and should be strived towards. This is, of course, told with Dragons and Vikings. (From my understanding, this is not Fantastic Aesop, and just feels like An Aesop example with the words "dragons and vikings" being added at the end).
  • Liar Revealed: Justified. Hiccup voluntarily ends the charade that he's an on-the-cusp dragon slayer, instead using his anointment battle to show his command of the creatures, much to the village's shock and his father's disappointment. Hiccup's deception, however, was out of an unselfish, kind motive, rather than a selfish one covered up for personal gain like the trope is routinely used for. Also, unlike other examples, he had a legitimate reason to keep the secret as they would have killed Toothless if they had found out. (Justified Trope, implying that the trope would have been an issue if it was not Justified)
  • Funny entry: Hiccup using his intimate knowledge of dragons to seemingly "subdue" them while not actually hurting them. (Entry does not explain why this is funny)
  • Related to the above, and this is more a personal standard, most of the Funny entries involving Toothless have a translation for his expression that stutters... for some reason. A lot of the entries on this subpage just seem weirdly written to me, I could be wrong though.
  • Fridge Brilliance: During the training sequence with the Nadder in the maze, Hiccup loses all his weapons. His axe is blasted and his shield is smashed. These were his ties to his village. "When you carry this axe you carry all of us with you" Well, when it's gone, that leads into the very next scene where he tries to make contact with Toothless. Brilliant! (This one is just really confusing to me. Maybe I just don't get it. But adding a Fridge Brilliance crosswick to a Fridge Brilliance entry is really silly)

Edited by ovskii
Arctimon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2023-01-15 08:37:25

The funny entries are subjective, so good luck with trying to make any headway with them. There is a Moments cleanup for that.

I'm pretty sure you can have a Justified trope on a page (at least it doesn't say you can't; maybe I'm wrong about that).

Fantastic Aesop seems fine, but it probably needs to be reworded a bit.

I agree with the FB, because it doesn't really explain what's so brilliant about the two seemingly unrelated scenes.

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