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Amonimus (Sergeant)
2022-12-22 06:28:11

If we're going this route, I'd rather have a thread about Pasta/Collaborative/Decentralized works in general. I've already brought this up in Goncharov thread, but I believe each installment should be treated as a separate work and each may worth a page, including the original if viablenote , while I don't think The Slender Man Mythos is a proper use of Franchise/ namespace.

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harryhenry Since: Jan, 2012
2022-12-22 07:20:05

^ Would DerivativeWorks/ be the appropriate namespace here? While that was created for public domain works, it would also fit collaborative efforts that go beyond copyright law.

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Amonimus (Sergeant)
2022-12-22 07:22:50

^ I'd like to expand it for other Derivative Works, that included, but this project needs to get its queue processed first before discussing something else.

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Zarina Since: Aug, 2014
2022-12-22 08:44:18

I think that the "original" iteration of Slenderman is probably worth troping under Web Original, but derivative works and the "expanded universe" for lack of a better term should either be moved to their own pages or cut.

WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2022-12-22 11:18:09

Yeah, I've been wanting to make a thread for this but I don't really know where to start. I feel like a lot of the works are lumped under the "Mythos" page because they have nowhere else to go, but there is and has never been one single unified "Slender Man Mythos".

I agree that it might be better as a Derivative Works/ page, but also that the project thread has currently stalled.

For now we can probably just make a short term cleanup and go from there.

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MatthewWayne Since: Oct, 2014
2022-12-22 15:45:42

This page is bizarre, since while WarJay is right in that there is no single unified mythos, there are quite a few webseries related to Slender Man that frequently cross over with one another, whether it be through intertwining lore or official crossover videos. Is that interconnectivity worth highlighting in some regard?

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2022-12-22 15:52:03

Those videos could be correctly called a universe, yeah. EMH, Tribe Twelve, Dark Harvest, ML Anderson, Stan Frederickson, ect, all of those take place in a shared universe by design. I wouldn't call them a "Mythos" though, a lot of them focus on specific monsters and villains that aren't Slender Man; he's sort of just the overarching threat that connects everyone.

It's worth highlighting but I'm not sure how to do it because these are all still individual works.

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Amonimus (Sergeant)
2022-12-22 16:03:09

I'm also not sure if they count as a shared universe, because with little knowledge on the topic, I believe they run on different interpretation of the Man. MarbleHornets, TribeTwelve and EverymanHYBRID are ARG channels with own lore and there's no common regulation on the portrayals.

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STARCRUSHER99 (Captain)
2022-12-22 16:04:24

I think the page itself needs cleaning up but I do think that there is a Mythos worth troping here. He’s essentially the main character of his own creepypasta that constantly shows up in related works and there is a general lore there - the camera distortions, memory problems, the concept of “proxies”, the pages, etc. there is consistent lore worth troping in one page, but I do think there needs to be a cleanup of what exactly is on it so that it’s not just “every work the character has appeared in”

WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2022-12-22 16:24:51

Marble Hornets doesn't count anyway. They don't use Slender Man, they use the Operator, who was based on the OG Slender Man pics and later inspired the Slender Man in EMH and Tribe Twelve... But MH takes place in a different universe from the other series with a technically not-Slender-Man character. EMH and Tribe Twelve, while they do have some differing lore, are absolutely a shared universe; the series have crossed over on numerous occasions and characters introduced in one series play a role in the other.

I think this ought to move to a forum thread at this point since we're getting into the nitty-gritty of what "counts" as a Mythos.

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Amonimus (Sergeant)
2022-12-22 17:02:51

Yes, either moving to Creepypasta cleanup or making a new Slenderman specific Short Term is overdue.

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