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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
2022-11-17 10:28:00

Since cracked was known for writing articles, I feel it falls under the purview for a moment to be an entire article.

"Nintendo was known for making video games, I feel it falls under the purview for a moment to be an entire video game." That's a nonsensical argument.

And yes. Including an entire episode as a Dethroning Moment is misuse. If you just looked at the page you'd see that (emphasis mine):

  • Specific moments only. Don't just say something like, "Everything he said," "The whole movie/episode," or "Character X's handling of the Idiot Ball throughout this movie."

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jjjj2 Since: Jul, 2015
2022-11-17 10:42:50

Yes but an article is a much shorter piece of a thing than a videogame. It takes at most 5 to ten minutes to read one. I don't think it's wrong to list it under the purview of a "moment."

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laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
2022-11-17 11:31:56

The length of the article is immaterial as the rules specifically state it needs to be a moment.

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jjjj2 Since: Jul, 2015
2022-11-17 13:08:27

What I am saying is an article could count as a moment. If we are willing to list scenes that last 5-10 minutes, than I don't see why we can't list a whole article that takes 5-10 minutes to read. But that's just my opinion, I get the sense that I'm gonna be overruled (which is fine).

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Speedchesser Since: Feb, 2012
2022-11-17 15:09:40

Even if that were how the policy worked, this specific entry is clearly not one moment. The actual moments are the subbullets, all of which are completely separate complaints. One person added all four, violating the "one per troper" rule.

jjjj2 Since: Jul, 2015
2022-11-17 15:23:08

Look this is the last I will post on this since it seems most people are not coming my point of view (which is fine), but I really felt like the troper was listing some of the problems which jumped out to him with the article and each of those four things illustrate how it's a terrible article and is thus a bad moment. It wasn't those specific four things are the worst. That was my impression of the example.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
2022-11-18 06:09:35

If a scene consists of several "sub-scenes" that took place in different settings, with different characters, and had different points, even if they were leading to same arc we wouldn't consider them a single scene, thus a single moment. Your argument is akin to "each of those four scenes illustrate how it's a terrible episode and is thus a bad moment."

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jjjj2 Since: Jul, 2015
2022-11-18 06:16:08

My argument at this point is because the article is such a short form piece of a work its more akin to four things wrong with a scene and why its a terrible moment (which you have acknowledged). I dont think an article can really be compared to a whole episode. I dont. I shouldnt of done that earlier in my analogy. At this point I seem to have not convinced other Tropers, so I'm just gonna let it lie at this point.

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ChrisDV Since: Aug, 2010
2022-11-18 07:08:21

I understand what you’re getting at - the article as a whole is the DMoS and the sub-bullets are highlighting specific points within the article.

I think the argument that an article or other short form media could be considered a DMoS in it’s entirety is valid and worth discussion, but the entry in question needs to be rewritten to better reflect that idea - right now it’s giving us four reasons why, instead of just one.

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