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RallyBot2 (Elder Troper)
2022-09-08 00:24:41

Several other character pages have "major cast/supporting cast" splits with no defined criteria and no problem.

FuzzyBarbarian Since: Jan, 2017
2022-09-08 02:37:19

Right, but that one can be clearly defined from a writing standpoint as the main characters and then supporting characters. Just like how "antagonist" can be defined.

"Central Rogues Gallery" for a franchise that has existed for 80+ years and has had hundreds of creators with significant contributions is a bit different. A lot of the characters on other pages were or are major villains. For example, the Court of Owls and Simon Hurt are very prominent antagonists who have reappeared, whereas Firefly hasn't done anything of note for decades yet is on the Central Rogues Gallery page. At the same time, this isn't an in-universe group page like how The Flash is organised by splitting the villains into their in-universe groupings/labels; it's seemingly just whoever somebody thinks is an important (?) Batman villain.

Plus, one of the other issues is that this was seemingly a unilateral decision by one troper. I made that mistake when alphabetising the villains, but apparently that one doesn't require consensus or discussion. This one seems like it does.

Edited by FuzzyBarbarian
laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
2022-09-08 08:16:26

Major page re-orgs do require some form of consensus before being done.

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Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2022-09-08 08:18:33

I'll agree that fighting over which of Batman's enemies besides the Joker deserve to be called "central" is fruitless, and alphabetical order worked just fine to prevent any sort of bias.

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crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
2022-09-08 08:26:10

We can judge individual comic runs or medium adaptations that way, but not the entire franchise.

Here's another vote for alphabetical.

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KUnlimited Since: Sep, 2020
2022-09-09 04:35:02

I also think it should be reverted to be in alphabetical order.

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Adept MOD (Holding A Herring)
2022-09-09 04:46:06

Adding another vote to revert to alphabetical order.

PCD Since: May, 2021
2022-09-09 16:06:05

Definitely, alphabetical order is preferable in this case.

FuzzyBarbarian Since: Jan, 2017
2022-09-11 22:12:34

Okay, it seems like alphabetical order is the consensus. So if everyone’s okay with it, I'll organise them that way, add Batman Central Rogues Gallery to the cut list and fix the header/menu thing at the top of the Batman character sheets.

Edited by FuzzyBarbarian
Berrenta MOD (Ten years in the joint)
2022-09-12 22:07:55

Performing the cut for the Central page, but the other page still has a handful of wicks and a massive amount of inbounds, so that is declined.

FuzzyBarbarian Since: Jan, 2017
2022-09-12 23:25:10

Sorry, I submitted Rogues Gallery as well as Central Rogues Gallery to the Cut List by accident.

Someone seems to have cut Rogues Gallery already, so can a mod please restore it?

ACW Since: Jul, 2009
2022-09-14 10:06:09

Though this makes me wonder...should Central Rogues Gallery be a thing for anything? Superman, for example, has been around even longer than Batman. And Captain America nearly as long.

But yeah, the main Batman Rogues Gallery page should probable be restored.

Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2022-09-14 11:05:52

Characters.Batman Rogues Gallery is back.

Please start a separate thread (perhaps in Wiki Talk) if you think this should be a broader effort. Locking this as resolved.

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