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laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
2022-07-16 16:27:47

Honestly those game show examples tread perilously close to troping real people.

I'd not shed a tear if the game show pages disappeared.

I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me
WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2022-07-16 16:28:02

I think cut them entirely, these tropes are NRLEP I think and game shows can't really have examples.

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gjjones Since: Jul, 2016
2022-07-16 16:28:46

I would also support cutting the examples.

He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
Karxrida Since: May, 2012
2022-07-16 23:35:27

Isn't What An Idiot Darth now? I'm more concerned with the subpage being visible on the main wiki via the upper tab.

gjjones Since: Jul, 2016
2022-07-17 09:09:20

Yep, it is.

He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2022-07-17 10:31:30

Eh, it's not super ideal to have the subpage tab for it, but it's also not something that can be helped.

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laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
2022-07-17 10:47:07

To clear things up, OP is referring to a subpage (well a subpage of a subpage) of the Darth page itself. What An Idiot isn't listed as a trope on a works page (which would be a no-no).

I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me
Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
2022-07-17 10:55:56

Update: It seems RL cleanup is in favor of cutting, saying it only didn't happen sooner as nobody seemed to act on it. Do we need more consensus from them?

Or is this ATT and the cleanup enough approval to cut? It seems between the two we have consensus to cut I'll submit them to cut list tonight unless I hear any objections.

Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught
GastonRabbit MOD (General of TV Troops)
2022-07-17 20:04:18

Keeping the subpage tabs from appearing would require additional coding for the admins, similarly to why Dethroning Moment of Suck tabs don't appear, so there's not really anything we can do for now.

Edited by GastonRabbit I got a rock for Halloween.
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
2022-07-18 04:04:44

I think we need some more discussion on treating Game Shows as Real Life. Even if not scripted, the people there are making a performance.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
2022-07-18 06:00:25

^Understood. For now should we just cut the examples that don't use the You'd Expect/Instead format that WAI TRS agreed was now mandatory?

Amonimus (Sergeant)
2022-07-18 08:39:15

Those that don't follow the format should be cut (or reformatted if the example wording would allow it) by default.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2022-07-18 11:00:24

^^^ I disagree with that, at least for shows like Jeopardy where it's literally just people answering questions, even if they're faking their personality IDK why any of them would pretend to get an answer wrong and actively lose money.

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laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
2022-07-18 11:05:17

Should there be a trope talk thread to hash this out?

Personally I think there is a huge difference between game show contestants actions and reality show drama. One is overtly manipulated and shaped into a narrative, while the other simply shines a camera on people.

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GastonRabbit MOD (General of TV Troops)
2022-07-18 11:16:25

Yes, please take this to Trope Talk. I'm going to lock this so the conversation can continue there.

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MacronNotes (Captain)
2022-07-18 11:28:29

A trope talk thread has been made here

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