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RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019

19th May, 2022 11:52:34 PM

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Bad Grammar, Punctuation Issues, Trope Shoehorns, Edit Warring...

... and all of the above.

So, recently stumbled across Manga.Police In A Pod, a page made exclusively by one X-FALCONER, a relatively new guy whose edits consist mostly of editing said page...

Grammar, spelling and punctuation issues are one thing:

Click here for Grammar Error

"Fuji have this with Kawaii with multiple characte note that she treat her nicely compared with how she treat others"...
Jaywalking Will Ruin Your Life: downplayed and not jaywalking but in one case Kawaii interrogate a teen that stole a bike and made her confess the girl admitted that these incident will probably make her lose her scholarship in a university at Tokyo, but she is confident that she can go there through other means. — This is lifted wholesale from the page btw, I didn't change a single thing
Yakuza: Minor nuisances in the manga. Seiji and Takeshi at one point get to a shouting match with them after a wakashu throws away a lit cigarette onto the street. — What does this have to do with the Japanese gang syndicate called the Yakuza again?
Irony: While Kawaii just met Yamada and Minamoto through Fuji , is shown later they found her nicer and easier to get along than Fuji who is a Jerk With The Heart Of Gold. — How is this Irony? Also, yes, they didn't double-bracket the words "irony" so it's not bluelinked.

But there's also blatant Redlinked typos that the user neglected to fix (Big Sister Instict? Jerk With The Heart Of Gold? Abusive Mother?)

... Shoehorning Tropes that doesn't fit:

Click here for Shoehorning Tropes

Running Gag: During the anime Kawaii and running specifically her tendency to run and the monologues she has complaining about this, thanks to the anime adapting the early chapters where Kawaii had to run a lot — I don't think that's what Running Gag means?
Cop Killer: While not a killer White Angel is a driver that Hit and Run Sakura an Officer of the station leaving her in a wheelchair for years he is later revealed to be Kimura a father who abandoned his family whose daughter is a cop in another prefecture, the reason why he was fixated on sakura was because she looked similar to her daughter but it wasn't intentional he just dozed off after he had too many all nighter. — The entry argues with itself, and is therefore a shoehorn. Also grammar in sentences.
Dramatic Shattering: An apartment window is busted by Fuji with her issued baton when she and some officers were conducting a wellness check and the tenant wasn't answering the door (plus the tenant had a previous meeting with the police due to concerns that he's been drinking). — The trope Dramatic Shattering means "drops and breaks an object in shock". This entry is "Breaking A Glass Window With A Baton", which... isn't a trope that exists as far as I remember.

And an 18-bulleted-point Surprisingly Realistic Outcome entry with really, really bad shoehorns

Click here for Surprisingly Realistic Outcome listing, but fair warning, it's LONG and a serious plethora of bad sentences, shoehorning and broken grammar

Surprisingly Realistic Outcome: One of the manga's main strengths with reader and critics is that Miko Yasu write with a lot of realism compared to other manga principally based on her own experience as a police officer.
- While everyone treat Kawai as The Ditz in the beginning, officer of others precints say that Kawaii actually is above average as a rookie, being someone who listen to her superiors advices and use them, follow orders and have generally a good will to work, is just that they compare her to Fuji who is The Ace.
- In a case of an Abusive Mother, who hurt her 3 year old child, instead of being a sadistic Child Hater, the woman was a teenage mom whose family kicked out and have her husband working aboard,and she was overstressed, after she found herself incredibly guilty of that, but still they took her daughter away from her, much to both sadness because they loved each other, Kawai felt incredibly guilty for this thinking that if she looked deeper on the case they would still be together, she and Kana outright admitted that Kid will probably hate Kawaii, but Kana admitted there was nothing she could do because she was just a grunt.
- Because they tend to be Hot-Blooded their superior dont really like Yamada and Minamoto, while they don't dislike them they outright said that they prefer Makitaka and Nasu who meanwhile doesn't have any great skill (Makitaka is outright said to be the weakest officer in all the station) they are dilligent and don't make dumb mistakes
- Just because someone passed Training from Hell doesn't mean they are going to become great athletes, Kawai passed the police academy training which according to the manga is capable of making men cry, but she doesnt show any Charles Atlas Superpower, actually there are a lot of times she is shown struggling in police work.
- Most officers spend their entire career with little to no experience in using their guns outside of target practice. If one is used to shoot a suspect, the officer/s's actions are to be scrutinized very carefully, especially since Japan has strict anti-gun laws.
- Because their work schedule, and Japan sexist tendencies toward male oriented jobs, is pretty common for policewoman to marry policemen until now all married (Ex)and current policewoman have been married to other officers.
- When officers are involved in strong traumatic incidents, they are often told to take time off or else they cannot function mentally in the field.
- Police officers, just like other first responders, don't have the luxury of having a social life or enjoy holidays because they need to be ready in case of an emergency or they need to work to ensure others can enjoy their holidays by covering their shift.
- Because of their past antics like breaking a car and losing his Badge, the inspectors were extremely vigilant to Minamoto and Yamada.
- When Kawaii got hit by a car but was fine nonetheless Fuji made her work until an ambulance come to check her, this was later revealed to be a facade she was way more affected than she showed with Minamoto having to console her later.
- In one chapter the main duo, had to deal with a lot of animal Jinx like subduing a Dog, making a cow move and deal with a monkey, like they explain they haven't being trained to this kind of stuff so they had a lot of trouble in this, in the cow case Seiji had to do it because he was raised by a police father in the countryside had experience with cows.
- Kana cuts corners and used inquiry to pass her training from the police academy and she is shorter than the minimum height required to be a cop in the first place, making her pretty bad when she need to do something physical.
Takeshi Yamada: [about Makitaka and Kana subding a large female suspect] Sgt. Minamoto, allow me to say something as their peer. Makitaka-san is the type of person you regret doing exercise with and Kana got through the academy solely through trickery. Their inability to do anything physical is laughable.
- While Fuji may be The Ace, Yamada reveals she also had her struggles when she was rookie, like when a case had to be shut down for lack of evidence and she apologized endlessly to the victim or when the victim couldn't stand the investigation and decided to suspend the investigation.
- In most cop shows the one who hurt or kill an officer tend to be extremely dangerous criminals like Crime lords or Serial killers , in this case Kimura the criminal who runned over Sakura, was simply a man who was overworked and dozed off and because of his debts tended to lay low, also the only reason why he wasn´t caught was because of the rain all evidence was erased and he got rid of the truck the principal element Fuji used to investigate the case
- After seeing Sakura accident ,her instructor and superior Onigawara entered in a state of shock, this the bad weather, and her not drinking any liquids culminated on her suffering a miscarriage, after that she never went back to police work.
- Just like in Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Fuji explain that the only reason officers like her and Kawaii could work there was because older Policewomen like Yokoi or Onigawara trailblazed during a time where the police was more sexist, and made things easier to younger officers.
- Linked with above, policewomen have to work harder than his male peers so they don't hurt the image of all the policewoman.
- Officer need to have a crime before they can act, until then ,they can only watch or warn people.
- Later in the manga, it's revealed that Kawai distanced herself a little from her family. It turns out her family lives 2 hours away and because of her work schedule, she can't come to visit very often. She's the first police officer in her family and because of a mix of police confidentiality and Mai not wanting to worry them, Mai doesn't really talk about her job.

... which the discussion thread gave me the "OK" to delete after I did a consultation / analysis...

(Cue Drumroll For War... Edit War)

... only for FALCONER to re-add the whole thing, wholesale (both of them!), with his excuse amounting to "I disagree with the deletion reasons so I'm adding everything back without even bothering to correct the grammar issues"

…given the cleanup thread disagrees with him, me re-deleting would constitute as an Edit War. We really don't want that to happen.

They also made Characters.Police In A Pod, which is the character page for the show, I guess they're a fan. But then you see shoehorns like this ( I haven't analyzed it thoroughly, that page is huge)

Click here for More Shoehorns, this time in the Character Subpage

Meaningful Name: Fuji is a reference to Mt. Fuji. — Isn't Fuji a super-common Japanese name?
Meaningful Name: Kawai is cute. — Actually, "Kawai" is a Japanese word that means "Confluence". Also sounds like character gushing.
Berserk Button: Temporarily after seeing a baby corpse, she got a button with people who downplay security measures specially with kids, a pep talk with Miyahara work this out. — I don't think that's what Berserk Button means? This entry is just "X freaks out after seeing a dead baby"...
Fair Cop: In a more cute, than sexy way but Kawai is considered quite cute with even Minamoto (who see policewoman as apes) telling her that she is cute, once one of her classmate outright admitted than she is jealous of Kawaii boobs and figure. — "More cute than sexy" — wait, what?
Brutal Honesty: a big part of the character specially in a Deadpan Snarker way — "X is this" violation, also grammar and lack of punctuations.
Cool Big Sis: Sometime she gives this feeling with Kawai — "X is this" violation, also grammar and lack of punctuations.
Fair Cop: She constantly gets compliments for her looks. — What?

There's also

violation of Repair, Don't Respond on Recap.The Owl House S 1 E 11 Senses And Insensitivity ^note since deleted by another user
Natter on Recap.What If S 1 E 7 What If Thor Were An Only Child ^note since deleted by another user
more grammar stuff and borderline RDR on Characters.Avatar The Last Airbender The Fire Nation Royal Family
this edit to Characters.Avatar The Last Airbender Other Characters and this edit to Recap.The Simpsons S 21 E 13 The Color Yellow having similar grammar and capitalization issues as the Police Anime page linked above.

EDIT: Apologies for the bolding, I know there are guys who consider this an eyesore. It's just, you know, for pointing stuff out

Edited by RobertTYL

WarJay77 (Troper Knight)

19th May, 2022 11:55:24 PM

This is certainly a lot of issues, but have they been notified about any of it?

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RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019

19th May, 2022 11:56:59 PM

Not yet, how does one send a grammar / edit war / shoehorning / natter / all-4-at-once notifier though?

Amonimus (Sergeant)

19th May, 2022 11:58:43 PM

You just send separate notifiers for each issue and check how they'd react. Edit war doesn't need a notifier since it's an immediately punishable offense.

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MacronNotes (Captain)

20th May, 2022 01:23:06 AM

Brought them in for edit warring.

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RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019

23rd May, 2022 06:37:14 PM

(ITEM REMOVED)

V Whoops, sorry, my bad

VV I did, got buried

VVVV my lips are sealed...

Edited by RobertTYL

themayorofsimpleton (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)

23rd May, 2022 06:44:21 PM

^ We really shouldn't popcorn post about suspended users. Requesting a lock.

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Amonimus (Sergeant)

23rd May, 2022 06:45:50 PM

EB popcorning and necrodancing is more frowned upon than bumping (the query isn't that old for that to be a problem anyway). Please fix the troper's edits that need fixing and bring the ones you're unsure about to the discussion forums.

Edited by Amonimus TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup

Amonimus (Sergeant)

23rd May, 2022 06:57:49 PM

Since it's in Is It The Example, you can bump that post there. After looking at those briefly, that's a vote from me for cutting them.

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MacronNotes (Captain)

23rd May, 2022 07:27:28 PM

Locking a requested. Please don't bump things just to popcorn again.

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