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JohnRore Since: Apr, 2021
19th May, 2022 11:13:38 PM

Do you mean you want to make a page about Lucky Spirit that describes the series and lists the tropes that show up on that show?

Amonimus (Sergeant)
19th May, 2022 11:15:00 PM

The Ultimate Ed Chronicles isn't a trope, it's a work article. Read Creating New Pages, How to Write an Example and The Fic May Be Yours, but the Trope Page Is Ours and you're free to make one yourself at Sandbox.Lucky Spirit (Since you're a new user and I don't know where your work is distributed at, it's safer to make the page at testing grounds first).

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BoltDMC Since: May, 2020
21st May, 2022 12:47:29 PM

You need at least three tropes that are fully fleshed out entries for the page to be viable. If it's launched like that, it'll be cutlisted.

B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
21st May, 2022 12:48:51 PM

okay... i know it's a buddy comedy and the series is made by B-Master Animation so...

B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
Amonimus (Sergeant)
21st May, 2022 01:08:35 PM

1. Compare Sandbox.Lucky Spirit with other work pages, The Ultimate Ed Chronicles for example. Your trope list is formatted incorrectly, you should use bullet points.

2. All three tropes listed are Zero-Context Example, the examples must be written detailed enough that an unfamiliar reader could guess the trope by looking only at your text. Also note that "at least three tropes" is only a minimum requirement, and with the abovementioned there are as good as no tropes listed. Since you're familiar with it, I assume you can add more.

3. If it's a fanfic, it has to say so and link to the page (Deviant Art I assume?) where it can be read.

4. You've added "ironically not related to The Ultimate Ed Chronicles and Pooh's Adventures". It needs an explanation what's so ironic about it, and if they're unrelated then is there really a need to mention them.

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B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
21st May, 2022 01:12:04 PM

https://www.deviantart.com/b-masteranimation/art/Lucky-Spirit-Trailer-2-900744679 it is a fanfic actually. And yes, i'm steadying them a little to learn how they were. And i fixed the list.

Edited by B-Master2020
JohnRore Since: Apr, 2021
21st May, 2022 02:51:40 PM

Maybe this is what you're working on right now: fix the link to Turbo like this: "' ' Western Animation / {{ Turbo }} ' '" (but remove the spaces). I would've done it for you except it was edit-locked at the moment.

B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
21st May, 2022 02:53:20 PM

i fixed it. no need to worry now.

B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
21st May, 2022 02:53:22 PM

i fixed it. no need to worry now.

Edited by B-Master2020
B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
21st May, 2022 02:53:45 PM

sorry, loading error.

BoltDMC Since: May, 2020
21st May, 2022 05:00:10 PM

Yeah, the ZCE examples have to be fully fleshed out so someone who hasn't read the story will know how it applies. Your page can't be launched with the tropes in that state. Also, "Same Creator" is not a trope. You also can't have character pages on your main page. Plus, the image you tried to upload doesn't work — and depending on what it is, you might not be able to use it.

ATT isn't really the place for hashing this out, though. Please bring it to this thread, which is one where people get help preparing Fanfic works pages.

Edited by BoltDMC
B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
21st May, 2022 05:02:11 PM

i'm trying to work this before the fanfic comes on June 23. It won't be done til then.

B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
21st May, 2022 05:03:57 PM

and i wanna know how to put my pic in since i can't do it yet.

Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
21st May, 2022 05:28:53 PM

...Why are you trying to make a page for a story that isn't even out yet?

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B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
21st May, 2022 05:49:41 PM

just to prepare myself when it comes. i'm the co-devloper of the Ed-Chronicles if you may recall.

BoltDMC Since: May, 2020
22nd May, 2022 02:11:49 AM

You absolutely should not be rushing this. It’s way more important that the works page be done right. We have far too many such pages with mistakes out there as it is. Rushing to get it out when it’s in bad shape like this will just get it cutlisted, and a poor quality page will reflect badly on your work.

B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
23rd Jun, 2022 08:50:54 AM

Lucky Spirit is out! Is it time to post it here now?

PCD Since: May, 2021
23rd Jun, 2022 11:13:40 PM

You should either fix or comment out the zero-context examples. The very first one listed, Abborent Admirer, does not have enough context for non-fan readers (like me) to understand it. Who is Letty? Why did she find Eddy aborrent? How did she get him to leave her alone? Why was it "thankfully, it was brief"?

These problems being left for others to fix is why TVT needs clean up projects. Please consider waiting until you're sure your fanfic entry is corrected.

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PCD Since: May, 2021
24th Jun, 2022 11:55:05 AM

Your prologue is very interesting and a bit confusing to me, as I don't understand what it has to do with the trope.

I did note some spelling errors in the prologue. In the phrase "hills and curvies", what is a "curvie"? It's not known to me as an American, but could be some regional term, maybe for a "hillock"? Nothing wrong with regionalisms, as we are not American-spelling specific site, but we also value clarity.

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Amonimus (Sergeant)
24th Jun, 2022 12:17:32 PM

We aren't supposed to review the original work here, this ATT is about Sandbox.Lucky Spirit. While writing advice is appreciated, it may need to be taken to the forums.

Regarding the sandbox, these entries have problem:

Take your time. Publish some good amount of Lucky Spirit, then find tropes in what you wrote at DA, not the other way around.

Also don't list characters on pages just for the sake of it, if the folders don't have tropes, don't make folders.

Edited by Amonimus TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
24th Jun, 2022 01:59:11 PM

Any other tropes you think i should do? It’s not just the prologue that’s out it has 4 chapters, a prologue, and a epliogue.

Amonimus (Sergeant)
24th Jun, 2022 02:19:39 PM

If your story is finished it may be easier to work with.

Just in case, be sure you know what a Trope means. It's a pattern in fiction, if multiple authors insert the same type of plot development, it's a trope.

I can't tell you what tropes you can add, it's your writing. Any scene, character behavior or plot twists can be a trope, if you want a page on this site, you'd have to familiarize yourself with Narrative Tropes or ask in Trope Finder if there's a trope page that can describe specific events.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
24th Jun, 2022 02:22:40 PM

But the story is finished.

Edited by B-Master2020
MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
24th Jun, 2022 04:05:21 PM

If I may add a few words... You need to be more detailed in your examples. For instance, take this example:

You never explain what about this is artistic licence. In what way does it differ from the real world?

Edited by MichaelKatsuro
B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
24th Jun, 2022 04:11:01 PM

The Kentucky Derby was used as plot device for the story. i don't know how it's Artisitic License but that's all i can think of. Horse racing is a thing for the story i wanna use and i... i couldn't think of something since my head's hurting a little.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
24th Jun, 2022 04:44:35 PM

i don't know how it's Artisitic License but that's all i can think of.
You can't do it like that, though. You can only list something under a trope if it fits that particular trope.

Amonimus (Sergeant)
24th Jun, 2022 04:53:44 PM

Also, in case if that should be said, we're not a fanfic sharing site, we document similarities across stories. If you want the page to be outside the sandbox, I can suggest taking a break and reading as many pages on the site as possible for experience.

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B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
24th Jun, 2022 04:58:33 PM

but you guys have the ultimate ed-crhonicles on this. it's a fanfic sharing page. So why can't Lucky Spirit have one?

WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
24th Jun, 2022 05:00:42 PM

...Nobody says it can't? You just have to do it correctly?

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
24th Jun, 2022 05:00:43 PM

...Nobody says it can't? You just have to do it correctly?

Current Project: The Team
B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
24th Jun, 2022 05:02:42 PM

warjay, you said that two times.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
24th Jun, 2022 05:05:38 PM

Nobody said it can't have a page. What Anonimus said was that this page, TV Tropes, is not a fanfic sharing page. And indeed, it's not. It's a page for discussing fiction in general.

EDIT: Sorry for claiming that it was Warjay who said that. It must have been, uh, hackers using my computers or something, editing my post. Yeah, that's it!

Edited by MichaelKatsuro
WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
24th Jun, 2022 05:05:46 PM

It's a glitch mate.

Edit: Also I only just joined the convo, that wasn't me :P

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B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
24th Jun, 2022 05:07:30 PM

yeah, but... what does it take to put Lucky Spirit in TV Tropes?

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
24th Jun, 2022 05:08:16 PM

All it takes is making a page that follows the rules on how to write a page. Which means you gotta add context, you gotta fix your spelling and grammar...

B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
24th Jun, 2022 05:13:43 PM

Friend, relax. :) There's no time limit here, so you can take your time. And yeah, making your first page can be tough, but since you're using the sandbox it's no real issue if you make mistakes.

My main piece of advice is this: Accept that it's gonna take some time to get the page made. First, you can read up on how things work here. Once you know your stuff more, you can create the perfect page for your fanfiction.

B-Master2020 Since: Jan, 2022
24th Jun, 2022 05:15:11 PM

i'm... i'm trying. i am taking my time and i'm trying to find any topics that can relate to it.

Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
24th Jun, 2022 06:00:46 PM

Then you should probably stop posting here, because it seems like you're rushing things purely to get a page on the site.

As stated by others, there is no deadline. You keep making an imaginary one and throwing in tropes and hoping they stick. That's now how things work here.

Calm down, take your time, and focus on doing the page correctly.

(Also, I'm fairly certain this is going to get locked for being way too long, so just keep all of that advice in your mind.)

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MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
24th Jun, 2022 06:08:06 PM

Before this gets locked: Remember to add context. Don't just say that somebody is Born Unlucky, for instance. Describe what happens to her that shows her to be unlucky.

ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020
24th Jun, 2022 06:23:36 PM

it's better to take longer, get the page right, and have it stay on the site than rush it out badly and have it deleted. we want your page to be here to stay, and that's why people are encouraging you to slow down.

MacronNotes (Captain)
24th Jun, 2022 06:28:27 PM

This query is getting too long so I am going to lock it.

Further discussion can be taken to the New Work Page workstation thread.

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