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mightymewtron Since: Oct, 2012
2022-03-10 23:32:05

It could be reworked as an index of works with pages on the site, not just "notable" ones.

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Ordeaux26 Since: May, 2019
2022-03-10 23:41:30

That may work but I am a bit concerned that it could too big, I don't know exactly how many Wattpad works have pages but the site has a lot of stories.

Amonimus (Sergeant)
2022-03-10 23:52:55

We could go through Fanfic/ namespace and add any pages that link to wattpad, it's just not going to be a one day job.

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bwburke94 (Y2: Electric Boogaloo)
2022-03-11 00:28:30

I think that it (and SpaceBattles.com et cetera) should have these lists removed, because "this fanfic happened to be published on such-and-such site" isn't worthy of indexing.

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mightymewtron Since: Oct, 2012
2022-03-11 00:54:53

Eh, I think it's fine for categorization purposes. To me, it's the equivalent of indexes of TV shows on Creator/ pages for TV channels.

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BoltDMC Since: May, 2020
2022-03-11 03:44:09

My two cents: it’s a nice idea to compile an index of all the Wattpad fanfics that have TV Tropes works pages — but that’s going to be a huge project involving a ton of research to do right, given that it’s one of the three largest fanfic repositories out there. It makes sense to leave it as is if someone’s going to do the legwork to flesh it out completely, otherwise I’m thinking it can be cut.

Amonimus (Sergeant)
2022-03-11 03:50:29

Website.Alternate History Dot Com has a giant index of works, what to do with that?

Fanfic/ namespace contains 10124 articles. While a lot of work, all is needed is to hover over the link on pages. It would require a Short-Term thread though, but it doesn't require to be done urgently. (I'm not strong about this if it's ineed too much)

Edited by Amonimus TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
2022-03-11 04:05:46

Worth noting that Archive of Our Own used to have a list like that before it was removed by this ATT back in 2019.

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Adept MOD (Holding A Herring)
2022-03-11 04:40:21

Don't see the point of listing specific fanfic/ pages on the site page, especially since a lot of fics may be cross-posted in multiple sites and this word just create redundancies

laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
2022-03-11 05:17:06

The question is, who determines which stories are "notable" enough to make this list?

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Amonimus (Sergeant)
2022-03-11 05:19:38

Nobody, either include them all or neither. To which I now lean to just cutting both lists.

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Tonwen Since: Dec, 2021
2022-03-11 06:31:33

I'd like to request a temporary hold on cutting the AlternateHistory.com ones, as I was planning to go through them to clean them and check if they are accessible or not.

Alternatively, we all clean them up and then cut the list out.

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Afterword (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2022-03-11 06:52:15

Aren't there a few stories on Wattpad that got published as books with emphasis on the fact that they once were Wattpad stories? Would it make sense to list those?

amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
2022-03-11 07:25:21

^That would be an entirely different index, which might actually be useful i.e. "published works that got their start as fan fictions." That would also not be wattpad exclusive and would cover any fanfic. Although, now that I write it out, that is probably a better Trivia trope than an index.

In any case, I agree that we shouldn't have indices of "notable fanfic works" because who/what determines notability is not our call. I also agree that given the propensity of crossposting fanfics, it makes little sense to have lists of fanfics on the hosting site pages. If AO 3 had their list cut, it makes more sense to treat them all the same and cut the other lists too.

Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
2022-03-11 07:37:23

Folks, here's the deal, and this is an official policy statement.

Websites that solely act as hosting or distribution platforms for media do not get TV Tropes articles and do not act as work indexes. This is because those websites are neither the authors nor the publishers of the works in question. It would be like listing my WordPress blog as being authored by WordPress. That's just not true.

We have a cleanup thread specifically for this sort of thing.

Edited by Fighteer "It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
2022-03-11 07:41:52

it's the equivalent of indexes of TV shows on Creator/ pages for TV channels.
That is also a problem. We shouldn't have a work indexed by a tv channel just because it aired on that channel. By the same token, a fanfic site shouldn't index every fic hosted by the site. If the tv studio created the tv series, it should be indexed, but not just because it aired on the channel.

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2022-03-11 14:05:39

Websites that solely act as hosting or distribution platforms for media do not get TV Tropes articles

Does that mean all these pages should be cut, then?

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laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
2022-03-11 14:11:01

I would think so, if a website lacks anything fictional or with a narrative that utilizes tropes (and isn't a content creator), why would we have an article on them?

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laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
2022-03-11 14:27:07

I would take a good long look at Tumblr as the tropes are all super general about "bloggers".

PS 4 is a Useful Notes page, those are a different class.

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Hello83433 (Lucky 7)
2022-03-11 15:23:38

Made a post in the cleanup thread mentioned above ^x6. Also brought up FanFiction.Net for similar problems.

Edited by Hello83433 CSP Cleanup Thread | All that I ask for ... is diamonds and dance floors
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