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nod I wanted an opinion here (or in the discussion, or both) before I reversed the "trimming" edit since I don't want Edit War, and though I've had my differences with the editor who made it, I do respect the wiki process and that everyone has the right to edit the page. It just seems like an odd edit reason at the very best because I've never seen any other index pages being "trimmed" for valid (or hell, even disputed) examples. Generally disputed examples are removed in the singular with a reason why that one particular example is Square Peg Round Trope, a redlink, etcetera.
Edited by AGroupie ?EDIT: just checked Dedars1 history using the proper name with no space. They do have a history (of good edits, strangely enough) so it's not related to this. The timing was just odd enough to make me suspect a Sock Puppet lashing out on another page I work on over this discussion. Apologies to all involved for the threadjack.
Edited by AGroupie ?batto - Fighteer trimmed the page before, since it was an index and longer explanations really could go to the pages collected.
I don't think the smoking stuff should go there - should it? The whole "smoking is glamorous and will KILL YOU" stuff is well propagated by anti-tobacco ads and it seems more YMMV, since most stuff that glorifies smoking nowadays is a deliberate subversion. (YMMV, obviously).
That said I do apologize and I will no longer edit the page :) I understand my presence there is the source of the problems, so I will remove it from my watchlist and walk away. I don't want to be seen as making this more serious business than it is, and I understand you feel passionately about it. Please do accept my apologies for bringing this up in this section as an issue.
?You should never remove tropes from indexes unless they do not actually belong on the index. Size is not a valid criterion.
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Want to get some input from staff here on something, that I've already opened for discussion in Television Is Trying To Kill Us.
Is it OK to edit examples off of an index that were added in good faith (e.g. not vandalism) and that do have an arguable reason to be on said index, simply to "trim" it or make it shorter? By "arguable reason" I mean, a good enough reason that one or more tropers put them on there, and they are applicable (and not Square Peg Round Trope).
Using an example struck off of Television Is Trying To Kill Us under such a "trim," Smoking Is Glamorous. Yes, people start smoking for reasons other than media, but the arguable reason is that some depictions of smoking in media (including Do Not Do This Cool Thing ones) inspire some to pick up the habit, especially in places outside of America. (And before anyone says *I'm* biased for using the removed smoking tropes as an example, I myself am a smoker so it's not due to some sort of anti-tobacco agenda, lol)
I think such "trimming" is not OK and that the solution to a long index is folderization and removal of natter, but not the tropes themselves if they belong there and there is a proper argument for their being there. Am I right in thinking so?
Edited by AGroupie