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Willbyr MOD (Y2K)
2022-02-06 12:28:27

I don't think there's any hard-and-fast rule about when to make a subpage for a trope. Personally, I consider 5 examples to be the bare minimum needed to justify splitting to a subpage, so looking at those, I'm fine with all of them as is. I definitely consider one full screen's worth of examples to be a good size for a subpage.

Edited by Willbyr
Theriocephalus Since: Aug, 2014
2022-02-06 14:26:44

My doubts on this come mostly because, from what I have seen from previous discussions on this topic, sub-pages with single-digit numbers of examples or less than a screen of length have apparently been judged as too short to need to be on their own. Since at least most of the pages I noted here are of comparable length, I wondered if these also would need to be re-merged.

Willbyr MOD (Y2K)
2022-02-06 15:47:38

I think something we may need to consider is that "one full screen" can be very subjective depending on what you're viewing the wiki on. My laptop, for instance, definitely doesn't fit as much on the screen as my desktop monitor.

laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
2022-02-06 15:57:31

^^ Those both refer to the same page, and there the issue was that all the examples combined on one page were under the 40,000 byte limit that seems to be the unofficial threshold for when a page needs splitting off to a subpage.

I would agree that, provided the main page is over the limit, having five examples is good lower limit for subpages.

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Theriocephalus Since: Aug, 2014
2022-02-07 16:09:46

^^

I think something we may need to consider is that "one full screen" can be very subjective depending on what you're viewing the wiki on.

That is... actually a very fair point. You're absolutely right.

^

Those both refer to the same page,

... they don't? The first one was talking about the subpages for Fiery Redhead, and the second about Magic Is Feminine.

and there the issue was that all the examples combined on one page were under the 40,000 byte limit that seems to be the unofficial threshold for when a page needs splitting off to a subpage.

I'm not certain what you mean here. The only 40,000 byte limit I'm personally aware of is the one on Main.Character Specific Pages, which refers to character pages for single characters and specifies that the new page, not the old one, must be at least 40k bytes. That specific byte length also didn't seem to be a major point in those conversations — most comments seemed more concerned with example number.

RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019
2022-02-07 16:17:08

I was hoping someone's going to address this issue!...

See, LighterAndSofter.Star Wars - its. three examples long

Malady (X-Troper)
2022-02-07 16:17:27

Well, Eye Scream is almost fully sub-paged, why not go all the way?

Edited by Malady Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
Willbyr MOD (Y2K)
2022-02-07 18:30:29

^^ I'd cut that and port the examples back to the main page.

^ Of the folders that are left on the page, the only one I'd consider subpaging is the Advertising one, and even with the minimum I mentioned earlier, I'd leave that one be for now.

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