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wingedcatgirl MOD (Holding A Herring)
2021-08-15 16:12:56

... yes, if we have a page for work A, examples from work A should be listed there and not on the page for work B, regardless of the relation between the two.

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
SpectacularTroper Since: Dec, 2019
2021-08-15 16:36:26

I apologize for reverted some of the edits without talking with Orbiting first. I made a lot of subpages for Infinity Train: Blossoming Trail. I just saw these tropes have so many examples; I made the trope its own page. Then, when Infinity Train: Blossoming Trail got its sequel Infinity Train: Voyage of Wisteria, it had the same tropes and its prequel Infinity Train: Knight of the Orange Lily. I just thought all three stories are part of the same trilogy and have many tropes; it would be simple and easier just to put all their tropes on the same page.

If you disagree with me, I will accept your decision and will not revert the edits.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
2021-08-15 16:42:30

It'd be one thing to have a page for the series in general and list series-wide tropes there. But if you have a page specifically about the first fic, you need to treat it as just that—focused on the first fic in particular.

SpectacularTroper Since: Dec, 2019
2021-08-15 16:53:18

How about this. A new page called Infinity Train: Blossomverse was made; that page is for stories set in the world of the trilogy. Maybe I can create subpages that list series-wide tropes there.

Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014
2021-08-15 18:00:01

For most of the pages, the vast majority of the content is just the first story, and the other two have much smaller amounts of content. It just doesn't make sense to me why those entries can't be listed on the main pages of those fics.

However, there are several pages (Foil.Infinity Train Blossoming Trail, FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse.Infinity Train Blossoming Trail, DeconstructedCharacterArchetype.Infinity Train Blossoming Trail, EveryoneHasStandards.Infinity Train Blossoming Trail) where the examples are organized by character and I can't tell whether they're for the series as a whole or just the first entry. Those ones should be moved to be subpages of the entire series.

SpectacularTroper Since: Dec, 2019
2021-08-15 19:24:37

Ok, that sounds fair. I'll move some subpages to Infinity Train: Blossomverse while keeping the rest on Infinity Train: Blossoming Trail. I'll start work on the changes tomorrow.

SpectacularTroper Since: Dec, 2019
2021-08-20 18:27:15

Hello, I like permission in re-creating some of the subpages for Infinity Train: Blossomverse. As you know me and Orbiting were having a dispute over the subpages of Infinity Train: Blossoming Trail. Since the rules state that you can only add examples from the page, not examples from other pages, even though they are related, I move the subpages to Infinity Train: Blossomverse, which was about the series in general. Then Orbiting and I had another disagreement about the subpages. Orbiting wants to move as many subpages as possible to Infinity Train: Blossoming Trail, while I want to keep them all on Infinity Train: Blossomverse. I was busy for two days and saw a lot of subpages cut from Infinity Train: Blossomverse.

I’m going to conclude to Orbiting point that some pages work better just being subpages of Infinity Train: Blossoming Trail. Still, I feel more subpages work better on Infinity Train: Blossomverse. Anyway, below I’m listing subpages that I believe have enough examples for the whole series to be on the Infinity Train: Blossomverse. The rest of the subpages can stay on Infinity Train: Blossoming Trail.

Infinity Train: Blossoming Trail subpages I want to recreate: Alternate Character Interpretation, Authors Saving Throw, Double Standard, Dramatic Irony, Foil, Foreshadowing.

Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014
2021-08-20 22:26:35

To clarify, we agreed last time that some pages (Freudian Excuse Is No Excuse, Deconstructed Character Archetype, Everyone Has Standards) would be moved to subpages for the entire series since they were organized by character instead of which fanfic they happened in, and the others would be moved to the pages of the individual works. SpectacularTroper made new subpages series-wide subpages for all of them though, which was not what we had agreed on.

I do not think that there is a need for most of those series-wide pages, especially since 90% of the examples on them are from the first fanfic in the series.

SpectacularTroper Since: Dec, 2019
2021-08-21 04:46:32

You're right; I'm so sorry I admit I forgot about our agreement. I apologize. I also conclude with your point that some of those pages work better for the first fanfiction series, but looking over the examples I presidents, I believe they work better as series-wide pages. Can I please have permission to re-create them?

Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014
2021-08-22 10:55:02

Bump; we are still at an impass over this.

SpectacularTroper Since: Dec, 2019
2021-08-23 18:31:17

Orbiting and I reach a compromise, and he agrees to let me recreate Infinity Train: Blossomverse subpage.

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