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Were the examples added by the same troper?
A smile better suits a hero
^ The examples on those pages were all added by one troper who, presumably, was copy-pasting from the original Ms. Fanservice page.
EDIT: Also, isn't "buxom breasts" a tautology?
Edited by MichaelKatsuro
^ As much as I hate to linger on drooling, no - buxom means 'plump'.
Not the first time it's come up
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I also noted this and I have been trying to simplify or rewrite them by changing "buxom breasts" and "shapely legs", and removing "ripped broad shoulders" and "muscular yet voluptuous body".
In almost all the Superhero character pages you will find these Ms. Fanservice entries repeated over and over again.
Thing is, those characters are Ms. Fanservice. The problem is, the entries should also describe how does that factor in the stories too (like Storm being attractive for multiple characters in the story, incluiding Doctor Doom), meaning not only are they copy pasted, they are zero context too.
To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
That doesn't sound like a good idea. Ms. Fanservice isn't a narrative trope; it's a design trope.
Storm's attractiveness to Doctor Doom is better described under tropes like Villainesses Want Heroes, We Need a Distraction or Go Seduce My Archnemesis. A Ms. Fanservice exists for the audience's benefit, exactly as it says in the name: they are FANservice.
This is especially prudent in works like Anime or Manga, where you can have a girl dressed in the skimpiest outfit imaginable and it's rarely (or even never) commented on by any other character.
Edited by NubianSatyress
It's a design trope, but specifically a visual design trope, and I believe that is what we should focus on. How the artists emphasise their body (by framing, poses, outfits and so on) rather than the body itself.
Then again, I have long felt Ms. Fanservice is a misdirected trope. When an artist puts in a lot of fanservice, it's usually directed at every woman in that comic who isn't too old or young to appeal, and focusing on single characters is a little beside the point, especially with the variety of artists and approaches that superheroines get.
Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
I think a world with conventionally-beautiful or attractive bodies is covered by World of Buxom and Most Common Superpower. A Ms. Fanservice or Mr. Fanservice is specifically a character who stands out from the majority of the cast by having a design (or, as you said, framing, pose, outfit, etc.) which is more titillating than others. You can have multiple Mx. Fanservice characters, especially if they're all fanservice-y in different ways. And you can even have one that goes Up To Eleven that makes them more egregious than other Mx. Fanservices.
I rewrote the entries about the X-Men characters. Hopefully, they are more appropriate now. I don't know much of anything about the other characters, though.
I literally just took out all the descriptors for Poison Ivy and reduced it to "enticing body".
I was reading Marvel Universe and noticed that multiple examples have very similar wording. The descriptions for Jean Grey, Captain Marvel, Scarlet Witch, Gwen Stacy, Storm and Rogue all highlight their "very buxom breasts, ripped broad shoulders, muscular yet voluptuous body, and long toned yet shapely legs", suggesting that they were all copy-and-pasted. Should something be done about this?
Edit: This also applies to The DCU. Poison Ivy, Huntress, Maxima, Wonder Woman and Zatanna are also described with the exact same words.
Edited by TantaMonty