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IkeaHan Since: May, 2021
2021-07-15 10:04:56

I should also add that from a reader perspective, having the reading broken down by chunks can be helpful not just for scrolling the site but also for ease of reading, so as not to overwhelm visitors all at once.

Character Specific Page cleanup
Bullman Since: Jun, 2018
2021-07-15 10:08:18

I admit I fail under that thought process too, but I was told that any page, even character ones should only be split when the page reaches maximum length.

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
IkeaHan Since: May, 2021
2021-07-15 10:08:59

What's max length even?

Also, does the page just need better qualifiers listed then?

Edited by IkeaHan Character Specific Page cleanup
Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2021-07-15 10:12:56

^^I think this is the best approach, or at least do so when you can tell it's getting close to max capacity. And even then the first course of action should be to split by group, not by character. This is not meant to be Fandom dot com; characters should not be getting their own pages just 'cause.

^You'll get a red warning at the top of the edit screen if a page is too long (there's a certain character limit in the hundreds of thousands). Pertinent forum thread as there are currently no pages on Overly Long Pages to demonstrate.

IkeaHan Since: May, 2021
2021-07-15 10:16:47

Just speaking from bias, I'd be very upset if all the work I put into Character Specific Pages got reverted lol

Edited by IkeaHan Character Specific Page cleanup
Ordeaux26 Since: May, 2019
2021-07-15 10:45:51

I'm not sure if only splitting when it gets the too long warning is a good idea for some users it starts to lag long before that and may be clunky, I mean the reason why Overly Long Pages has no pages is that most get split long before the warning.

Edited by Ordeaux26
Bullman Since: Jun, 2018
2021-07-15 10:48:48

I mean I am just repeating what I was told. However, I get both sides.

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Aazkaal Since: Sep, 2019
2021-07-15 10:50:28

There's also a bug on some long pages when you can'd interact with folders at all. Long character pages tend to have tons of folders. I previously thought it's just due to my potato computer, but recently someone else reported it as well.

IkeaHan Since: May, 2021
2021-07-15 11:05:54

^^^ I'd argue it's better to think of page splits and how they effect the experience of using the site rather than a technical limitation

Character Specific Page cleanup
Ordeaux26 Since: May, 2019
2021-07-15 11:10:44

Personally, I think it should be done when one particular character is taking up the majority of the space.

IkeaHan Since: May, 2021
2021-07-15 11:12:59

Then again, those aren't mutually exclusive

Character Specific Page cleanup
Bullman Since: Jun, 2018
2021-07-15 11:19:00

This is why we need to work out concrete rules for it.

Edited by Bullman Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Ordeaux26 Since: May, 2019
2021-07-15 11:25:28

Here are my ideas for rules.

1. The character page needs to be at least 40,000 bytes.

2. The page it is being split from needs to be at least 200,000 bytes.

3. The character needs to take up a good amount of the page.

Edited by Ordeaux26
IkeaHan Since: May, 2021
2021-07-15 11:26:24

Bytes or words?..

(I'd really like an explanation that differentiates them and how to measure bytes)

Edited by IkeaHan Character Specific Page cleanup
IkeaHan Since: May, 2021
2021-07-15 11:27:29

Also to add, I think the character needs some relatively big plot significance (I.e. protagonists, villains, significant depth, etc.)

That's why for example I created pages for both Ryu and Akuma

Edited by IkeaHan Character Specific Page cleanup
Bullman Since: Jun, 2018
2021-07-15 11:33:14

I feel like to do this one of us should start a Wiki Talk forum.

Edited by Bullman Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
IkeaHan Since: May, 2021
Piterpicher (Series 2)
2021-07-15 11:39:09

Just so it's clear - bytes are a computing data measure, words not so much. In plain text, a single character (letter/number usually) is one byte most of the time. the previous two sentences have 163 bytes (easy to check in Notepad++) and over 20 words (too lazy to check in Word, but you can do it there).

Oh, and the SF splits have received some backlash (which I agreed to, but maybe this needs further discussing in the wiki talk thread).

Edited by Piterpicher Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods Of Incremental)
HeavyMetalHermitCrab Since: Sep, 2018
2021-07-15 11:57:26

When a character page reaches the character limit, the first resort is generally to split it into factions (Heroes, Antagonists, or whatever else may be applicable). It's not exactly practical to have a separate page for every semi-major character in a franchise.

Otherwise, character-specific pages are generally only made when they are disproportionately longer than all the other characters (like, say, one character takes up half the page). In practice, the above almost never happens outside of a namesake protagonist, so it should almost never be considered a first resort for anything.

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