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4maskwolf Since: Apr, 2015
2021-06-10 06:07:10

"I made the page" and/or "I made the work" have never been excuses for vandalism.

dwa824 Since: Jul, 2012
2021-06-10 06:08:59

Thats what i was thinking.

"I won't let fear compromise who I am."
Willbyr MOD (Y2K)
2021-06-10 06:21:02

They've been given the 10-count.

dwa824 Since: Jul, 2012
2021-06-10 07:17:49

Im sorry but i'm unfamiliar with what the 10-count is.

"I won't let fear compromise who I am."
Afterword (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2021-06-10 07:40:50

^ I suspect that means they've been suspended

Exxolon Since: Jul, 2010
2021-06-10 10:19:44

I know nothing about wrestling but as a point of interest, there's a legitimate UK promotion under the same name that's prominent enough to have a Wikipedia article on them - see [1] so they should probably have first claim on the page under the name anyway - so we have a legit reason to do that, cut this rubbish and if any content is worth keeping put it at WAW Wrestling New Hampshire or whatever.

Edited by Exxolon
Willbyr MOD (Y2K)
2021-06-10 10:47:04

^^ Yeah, in pro wrestling if a wrestler is out of the ring long enough for the ref to count to 10, they're disqualified. It's a variant of the 10-count knockdown rule in boxing.

dwa824 Since: Jul, 2012
2021-06-10 14:23:03

Ohhhhh ok wow i'm dumb. I do know about that 10 count. I thought there was some TV Tropes specific thing called a 10 count lol.

Edited by dwa824 "I won't let fear compromise who I am."
daemondanzer Since: Aug, 2011
2021-06-11 21:32:56

Hello. I am the user in question in the original post (after my 10-count, I got the booker to restart the match. Metaphor!).

My claim to have made the page, which is true, was not intended as an excuse and in regards to 'editing superiority', is irrelevant and so I concede that point. So, I apologize for it having come across that way. I hold that claim only in understanding that I'm trying to present a factual account of the company's dissolution.

Several times, the entire passage was stricken from the page. I took issue with this because the company did dissolve, sordid details aside, and I find that important to note. The passage (written roughly 1.5 years ago) does contain langauge I admit came from anger, as I was hurt by what happened to a place I loved. I know, not an excuse. I don't want to fight about it anymore. Deleting the passage wholesale with the note 'no bashing', however, was not helpful for constructive. It didn't identify the bashing in the passage, it wasn't communicative.

My goal, then, is to have the information about WAW's dissolution in such a way that meets TV Trope's guidelines. I would appreciate collaboration on the matter.

To the matter of the 'other WAW': There is indeed a UK promotion (considerably more legitimate; they trained WWE's Paige if that means anything to anybody) called World Association of Wrestling, or WAW UK that predates the New England WAW by about 4 years. They are called by either of those two proper names, not "WAW Wrestling" by my understanding, though I get the confusion.

Edited by daemondanzer
Reymma Since: Feb, 2015
2021-06-12 11:03:18

Indicate in the description simply that it was dissolved after a row involving the management and a state investigation. Keep it short.

The full story might be well suited to a Troubled Production entry, but make it read like a factual account and not grave-dancing.

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
daemondanzer Since: Aug, 2011
2021-06-12 12:15:18

Very well. There's a lot less anger surrounding the whole thing anyway (and sadness, as yesterday a former wrestler suddenly passed away, which has washed much of my motivation), so avoiding 'grave-dancing' as you put it shouldn't be hard.

If by chance there are other tonal issues, editing passages or removing excerpts is preferable to just excising the whole chunk of text. I'm going to re-write it to be a short paragraph rather than the full story anyway. Some things should just die.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
2021-06-12 12:57:46

Here's the thing, though: You keep saying that removing the entire passage is less productive than excising away the offending bits. But it's still better than just leaving it there as it is. So it's still an improvement.

daemondanzer Since: Aug, 2011
2021-06-12 13:49:34

But if you're going to make the change, then why not just identify and cut the bits rather than the whole thing? Aside from just not having the time.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
2021-06-12 14:36:41

Because cutting the bits that are complainy might make the text as a whole incoherent. And that's assuming that it's even possible to cleanly separate "complaining" and "not complaining".

Edited by MichaelKatsuro
daemondanzer Since: Aug, 2011
2021-06-12 14:46:50

Well, I've already said I'll rewrite it in hopefully a satisfactory way. I'm at a state park so it'll be a day.

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