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For what it's worth, I only link the creator if:
- The work doesn't have a page, just so it can be crosswicked (and if it gets a page, hopefully someone will move the entry from the Creator/ page)
- The trope appears multiple times across the creator's body of work
I agree that it's not necessary otherwise.
- Creator's Title: context
- Creator:
- Title 1: context
- Title 2: context
Well, assuming there's multiple examples in the different books... But wouldn't it sort of be the same as saying:
- In Avengers: Infinity War, produced by Marvel Studios...
If we don't do it for other mediums, it feels weird to do it here unless necessary.
Edited by WarJay77 Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallWe do the exact same thing for Art and Music; the Creator tends to be the more prominent figure, while in other mediums it tends to be more of a collective effort.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.Well, I always thought that was because people were more likely to recognize the creator than individual works. Not many people know a lot specific paintings by name, but they'd recognize the artist. With books it's different; people don't usually need to know the author of the book to recognize what it is. It'd feel just as weird to keep reminding people that, say, JK Rowling wrote Harry Potter. At a certain point, the book is more important than who made it, and unless there is multiple examples of the creator I just don't see a point to repeatedly listing the author's name.
Edited by WarJay77 Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallI'm happy to stop adding "by" or remove my name from any works to conform to policy. I don't want to cause any trouble. I do love troping, though, and often share the pages with my fans at my fanclub.
Edited by CharlesPhipps Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.That subbullet thing looks like a big indentation annoyance. Unless the books are part of the same series/continuity, or this is worth noting as a Creator Thumbprint, I think it's easier to just list them separately, and mention the creator if necessary.
While I understand the point about collective efforts, aren't most of the creators for the music genre in the Music/ namespace anyway? Not really the same comparison.
EDIT: As for the main concern, I don't think this is an issue, as crosswicking creator pages alongside the work pages is helpful.
Edited by mightymewtron I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.I agree.
That's not really what that rule is though? I'd understand if I'd said something along the lines of "these authors aren't famous enough to have a page", but the notability rule doesn't mean all information is worth reiterating in every example. What about Clear, Concise, Witty? It's less Concise to keep saying the author's name, but there's no clarity sacrificed in most cases when you don't have the name, so it seems like a non-issue to just leave the author's name out. In other cases, though, the clarity is hurt by not mentioning the creator.
Like, I'll be honest, I'm generally unconcerned about whether the names are given or not. It doesn't bother me either way, but I do think it's unnecessary in a majority of cases.
Edited by WarJay77 Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall

This one is a bit weird, and I'm not sure It's strictly bad, it's just... weird and I wanted to probe the hive mind about it.
Charles Phipps is clearly Creator.CT Phipps (He makes no secret of this, it's his forum signature), which, fine, authors can be tropers and trope their own works. The part that gets weird is whenever he write an example in a trope page about his work, he'll always plug the work name "by C.T. Phipps". For examples:
Vampire Procreation Limit:
Stronger with Age:
Brilliant, but Lazy
(See basically any trope page one his creator page's related to tab
)
Now, this isn't strictly wrong at all. It's just that we don't usually list the author of a work in an example unless it's relevant and there's no policy for or against it afaik, and even then that's not a big issue, what makes me bring this here is that it's clearly being done by the author himself so it kinda enters this weird Shameless Self-Promotion territory and I'm not sure if it's something that needs to be addressed. And again, I wanna emphasize that this isn't like he's sockpuppetting or anything, he's pretty open about who he is. I'm not accusing him of violating actual policy or anything underhanded, it's more a question of form.
I removed the one in Stronger with Age at first coz it felt weird to have just the one example that listed an author, but undid it coz I really wasn't sure how to proceed.
Edited by Ghilz