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If you spot an article that has more natter than one person can handle without losing their lunch, report it here.

Fix as much as you can bear to, then call on us for help. wink

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Feb 25th 2024 at 10:26:27 AM

Bubblepig Steve from Minecraft (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
#1801: Jan 13th 2021 at 4:50:07 PM

[up] As a person who watched this movie before, I'll try to add the detail after I remove the natter. But for now I just commented it out first.

Edited by Bubblepig on Jan 13th 2021 at 4:50:31 AM

"CHICKEN JOCKEY!"
Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#1802: Jan 13th 2021 at 6:47:22 PM

Reposting from the previous page, so it doesn't get lost:

Are the parts I've bolded from DC Future State, necessary?

  • It's the Same, Now It Sucks!: Future State: The Flash paints Wally West as a killer again, which fans feel is too soon after the Heroes in Crisis debacle. Moreover, fans were hoping that since Didio is finally out, DC would treat the character (and others of Wally's generation, for that matter) fairly from here on out. Hopefully this is just a holdover from the original 5G plans and DC will be plotting a new course when the regularly published Flash comic resumes.

Bubblepig Steve from Minecraft (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
#1803: Jan 13th 2021 at 9:51:44 PM

[up]I'll try my best help you with it. The last sentence and that line "(and others of Wally's generation, for that matter)" need to be removed or change. Sorry if I wasn't helping enough to fix this natter sad.

"CHICKEN JOCKEY!"
IsaacsLaughing Since: Feb, 2015
#1804: Jan 25th 2021 at 3:11:38 PM

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FinalFantasyX/TropesPToS has an issue under Powered by a Forsaken Child, and I cannot deduce what point the troper was trying to make in order to fix it.

Edited by IsaacsLaughing on Jan 25th 2021 at 4:24:28 AM

SomeLibre WELCOME BACK MOTHERFUCKER from [SERVICE UNAVAILABLE] Since: Dec, 2020 Relationship Status: Chat, is this real?
WELCOME BACK MOTHERFUCKER
#1805: Jan 25th 2021 at 3:49:54 PM

From the YMMV page of Podcast.The Magnus Archives:

  • Draco in Leather Pants: Jared Hopworth, the Boneturner, got a lot of Evil Is Cool / Evil Is Sexy treatment from certain fans and tended to be seen as a more harmless avatar for not wanting to trigger a ritual to change the world (if only because he simply likes the world as it is, especially after an episode revealed that he had started a gym and used it to help willing people get their ideal bodies. What sympathizers might overlook is that, while not willing to aid in a ritual, Jared was still a bully even before he became an avatar, and after becoming one, he spent some time running around taking bones from unwilling victims and eventually led an attack on the Institute. Episode 171 ("The Gardener") almost feels like it was written to address this image of Jared. We see (or rather, hear) him torture several people by twisting their bodies into new, horrific shapes while whistling a jolly tune. He makes a homophobic joke about Jon and Martin, reminding the audience that he is a jerk. And the gym? Jared makes it clear that he only did that because it was easier than going out and grabbing people himself, and he still fed on their fear; while they weren't strictly speaking afraid of him, they were still driven by a fear and disgust of their own bodies and of how horrified others would be if they saw them.

I get the possibility of authors wanting to joss common headcanons, but the part I bolded I feel like could be rewritten alongside the other portions of this entry so it doesn't have that "almost feels like" bit and something.

Cassie | they/them/he | Help needed for filling out entries on the Series X SCP category
ejmenendez Since: May, 2015
#1806: Jan 26th 2021 at 6:31:51 AM

I found this on Show by Rock!! for No Export for You:

  • The anime series was released in United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and the Netherlands. So, if you're outside of those countries and regions (Latin America, Continental Europe, Africa et al), you're practically banned from see this anime.

Does the last sentence after the parentheses come across as unnecessary? The anime still released in a good amount of the world but maybe it should be rewritten.

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#1807: Jan 26th 2021 at 7:10:39 AM

[up] I don't think the sentence is bad as it does specify which regions didn't receive the export, but "you're practically banned from see this anime" is grammatically incorrect.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
ejmenendez Since: May, 2015
#1808: Jan 26th 2021 at 9:08:00 AM

[up] Alright, then I will update it. Thank you.

Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#1809: Feb 1st 2021 at 8:51:54 AM

Found on What Were They Selling Again?; not sure how to approach this one.

  • One of the most surreal ads ever featured a hamster running furiously in his wheel until it breaks and he dies of boredom. It only ran for a short time, and if anybody remembers it today it's for the artificial outrage certain tabloid papers tried to stir up about the portrayal of a dead pet. So what was the product? Levi's.
    • They did several ads like that at this time, didn't they? There was an ad with a toddler hammering a square peg into a round hole...
      • Evidently those ads according to this article "was part of a wider campaign, devised by advertising agency Bartle Bogle Hegarty, built around deliberately weird and surreal situations, which hinted toward a vague kind of theme about originality and the importance of thinking outside of the box." Kevin the hamster died because of a failure to think outside the box. Others include Wives and this.
    • Then there were Levi's 80s-era ads. This one is a good example of what you would see- samurai lizards, tiny little anthropomorphic Levi's logos, and a Tarzan knockoff who would always run into trouble. Maybe the thinking was "everybody knows we make jeans, so let's just spend 30 seconds doing weird stuff"?

RallyBot2 (Elder Troper) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
#1810: Feb 1st 2021 at 10:21:17 AM

[up]I'd keep only the top bullet and possibly re-word the bottom one into a different example.

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#1811: Feb 1st 2021 at 11:36:17 AM

What Were They Selling Again? has a natter issue in general, as well as other issues like complaining. Very 2010 stuff. I've considered a short-term cleanup for on-page examples.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#1812: Feb 1st 2021 at 4:58:00 PM

[up] I'm down with that idea.

Erin582 Everything is Everything from I live among the creatures of the night Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Everything is Everything
#1813: Feb 12th 2021 at 10:44:49 AM

Underneath the https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/NightmareFuel/PublicServiceAnnouncementsSafety page, someone added this quote: "This has probably become unintentionally hilarious in the wake of the COVID pandemic, which has done a much better job of killing off theatre showings." Nor only is it Natter, but how close does it come to violating the No Recent Examples or Distanced From Recent Events rules?

Are you adding to the discussion on this site, or just taking away from someone else's contributions?
HarpieSiren Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#1814: Feb 12th 2021 at 10:46:29 AM

It can be removed simply on the basis that it's totally irrelevant.

Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#1815: Feb 17th 2021 at 8:36:12 PM

Found on Bait-and-Switch:

  • Donkey Kong Country 1: During the final boss battle with King K. Rool, after the Kongs take him out after his second phase, he collapses. Donkey (or Diddy) does his victory pose as the camera pans away from them, and then...the credits roll! Although, there is something very off-putting about these "kredits". After they finish crawling up the screen, it says, "The End?" Then we pan back to see K. Rool getting back up, and we begin the third and final phase of the battle. After this phase, we get to see the real ending.
    • Speaking of K. Rool, his reveal in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate has the viewer think K. Rool is playable... only for Dedede to toss off the costume and mock the flabbergasted Kongs. This is done double-duty, however, as the real K. Rool shows up to smack Dedede off camera not long after.
      • The same joke was used with Banjo & Kazooie's reveal, with the Duck Hunt Duo impersonating them before the real ones drop in.

Edit: Zapped the subbullets.

Edited by Berrenta on Feb 18th 2021 at 9:21:23 AM

fragglelover Since: Jun, 2012
#1816: Feb 18th 2021 at 8:08:02 AM

This is on The Parent Trap (1998):

Alternate Character Interpretation: The "11 years and 9 months later" caption gives the implication that Elizabeth got pregnant very quickly after meeting Nick - suggesting that may have been the reason they got married in the first place. The odd thing is that "about twelve years" would've served the purpose equally well. It's not like Annie and Hallie remark that they just barely turned eleven when they meet at camp anyway, they've been eleven for at least a few months.

Is the part I bolded natter?

Edited by fragglelover on Feb 18th 2021 at 10:12:06 AM

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#1817: Feb 18th 2021 at 9:16:38 AM

Yeah, it's pretty pointless, especially since "about 12 years later" would be kind of a dumb caption for how much more vague it is than "11 years and 9 months."

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
RJ Savoy
#1818: Feb 18th 2021 at 11:25:10 AM

I cleaned up the Final Fantasy X case brought up by Isaacs Laughing.

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
Sirena sold my car for candy from Germany Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
sold my car for candy
#1819: Feb 19th 2021 at 8:32:13 AM

Triggered by an an ATT about an specific example on that page I took a look at GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff.Western Animation and it is cluttered with natter. Roughly counting, I spotted 42 (!) bullet point abuses (and for comparison there's only 168 first level bullet points on the page, so 42 seems a lot.) I also took a look at GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff.Anime And Manga which seems much cleaner with only 17 bullet point abuses (and 170 first level bullet points). GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff.Live Action TV also has 17 bullet point abuses (and 180 first level bullet points). There are 24 abuses in GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff.Film Live Action (about 200 first level bullet points), 8 abuses in GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff.Film Animated (and 30 first level bullet points) and 4 abuses in GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff.Comic Books (about 40 first level bullet points). Not sure about the other subpages.

Now, not all of this is natter, but only fixing the formatting of the 112 cases would hide the natter. This trope seems to attract natter and ZCEs. It's often difficult to see how to split the examples and often someone just adds a ZCE like

  • The show is also extremely popular in Japan.
below, which is easy to fix, however often it is also additional information about why the show was more successful and then the whole example would have to be rewritten.

themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#1820: Mar 2nd 2021 at 4:30:51 PM

Found on And Knowing Is Half the Battle:

  • This was used in The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon series (but not the one that aired on Saturday mornings) with a short Sonic Says segment every episode, where Sonic explained some sort of lesson (often safety related) to the viewers. Disturbingly, Sonic once took it upon himself to explain "good touch vs. bad touch" to the kids at home ("There's nothing more cool than being hugged by someone you like. But if someone tries to touch you in a place or in a way that makes you feel uncomfortable, that's no good!"). The Internet being what it is, this has spawned various edits and parodies, such as "Sonic Gives MC Hammer Advice", which is the "touch" speech with parts of "Can't Touch This" edited in.
    • Listen to the mighty sloth and not take rides in clothes driers!
    • And remember kids—if you're surrounded by robots, don't call 911—that's for real emergencies!
    • There is also that one PSA that had the bumbling villains Scratch and Grounder swigging booze and smoking cigarettes. But, you know, it was to encourage kids not to. "Hurry up, Grounder, I wanna try this booze!"
    • This was even done in Wreck-It Ralph. They had Sonic say "Remember, if you die outside your own game, you can't regenerate!" on a monitor.
    • And then there's the episode of OK K.O.! Let's Be Heroes guest-starring Sonic, which straight-up makes their own Sonic Sez segment after KO remembers he forgot to learn a valuable lesson. Of course, since this was a parody, the segment used a Spoof Aesop.

While not all of this is natter, I'm requesting help with cleaning up what is natter.

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
Morgisboard bro visited his friend from Late Cretaceous Laramidia (Season 2) Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
bro visited his friend
#1821: Mar 2nd 2021 at 8:18:40 PM

From Wolfwalkers

This is pretty must just one troper rebutting another. Not sure how to proceed with this one, especially in regards to entries on YMMV pages.

AMA about my unfinished writing projects
PhantomDusclops92 Nitpicky Nitwit from Italy Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Nitpicky Nitwit
#1822: Mar 3rd 2021 at 9:48:25 AM

[up][up] First two bullet points are basically making fun of the "Sonic sez" clips with out of context lines. Third does the same but uses links to give context. Last two can stay since they reference cases of Affectionate Parody of the trope in media where Sonic cameoed.

themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#1823: Mar 3rd 2021 at 10:03:56 AM

[up] Thanks. I cleaned up the example.

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
underCoverSailsman Peeks from Under Rocks from State of Flux Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Peeks from Under Rocks
#1824: Mar 3rd 2021 at 10:12:20 AM

[up][up][up][up]

The good-touch vs. bad-touch example should be pulled out into it's own sub-bullet. As it is now, its bullet-abuse. I've never seen the shorts, so I can't comment on whether or not that particular example was off-tone enough to be "Disturbing"

Edited by underCoverSailsman on Mar 3rd 2021 at 12:12:35 PM

themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#1825: Mar 3rd 2021 at 10:48:52 AM

[up] Thanks. I've further cleaned up the example per your suggestions.

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