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If you spot an article that has more natter than one person can handle without losing their lunch, report it here.

Fix as much as you can bear to, then call on us for help. wink

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Feb 25th 2024 at 10:26:27 AM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#1626: May 12th 2020 at 11:49:25 AM

[up] IDK Homestuck, but personally I'd just delete that. Even if it's true, it's basically a ZCE in natter form.

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rjd1922 Best robot boy | he/him | Image Pickin' regular, from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#1627: May 12th 2020 at 1:41:07 PM

[up]You mean delete the sub-bullet? The example would still need to be updated now that The Homestuck Epilogues are out.

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#1628: May 12th 2020 at 1:51:51 PM

The sub-bullet, yeah.

Why would it need to be updated? It's still correct; it's about Homestuck, not Homestuck Epilogues.

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#1629: May 12th 2020 at 6:07:48 PM

[up]So are you saying we should just remove the part at the end of the first-level bullet about the epilogue being expected eventually?

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WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#1630: May 12th 2020 at 6:13:30 PM

Yeah, I would.

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Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#1631: May 18th 2020 at 10:22:58 PM

On YMMV.Toy Story 4, the following example under They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character:

** Outside of Woody, Buzz and Bo Peep, the original cast get very little screen time. This is especially egregious considering this is stated to be the last installment of the franchise. Their spending most of the movie literally in the back seat is a quite apt visual metaphor. The same goes for Bonnie's original toys, as most of them have bit parts near the beginning and end of the film and not much else.

was latter changed to this:

** Outside of Woody, Buzz and Bo Peep, the original cast get very little screen time. This is especially egregious considering this is stated to be the last installment of the franchise. Their spending most of the movie literally in the back seat is a quite apt visual metaphor. The same goes for Bonnie's original toys, as most of them have bit parts near the beginning and end of the film and not much else. People like Doug Walker were especially turned off by this and think that calling the film "Toy Story" with the other toys being pushed to the sidelines seems rather misleading, and that the film may have worked more if the title was named after Woody since he's the only main character who gets much focus.

Does the last sentence added qualify as Natter?

HeavyMetalHermitCrab Since: Sep, 2018
#1632: May 18th 2020 at 11:03:57 PM

[up] I don't know that it's strictly a form of natter, but it is belaboring the point and not adding any new insight. I'd personally get rid of it.

Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#1633: May 19th 2020 at 6:31:34 AM

I'd cut it, too.

When will people learn that their favorite Caustic Critics are not an authority on... anything, really, and do not need to be quoted or referenced constantly?

jandn2014 SMILE! from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#1634: May 19th 2020 at 6:10:37 PM

Found what seems to be natter (specifically the last bullet point) on Funny.Toy Story 2:

  • Al's commute.
    Al: I can't believe I have to drive all the way to work on a Saturday. ALL THE WAY TO WORK. [drives across the street]
    • The commute itself has many blink-and-you'll-miss-it moments that sum up Al in a nutshell: he crosses a one-way street, going just barely the wrong way to get into the parking lot, nearly hits a car the moment he leaves the driveway—and just to rub it in, he double-parks.
    • And he's wearing his chicken suit already, for some reason.
      • Well, they're doing a commercial in one take. He had to put it on so that he can get it over with.

HeavyMetalHermitCrab Since: Sep, 2018
#1635: May 19th 2020 at 6:59:11 PM

[up] I’d merge the chicken suit point into the one directly above, and nix that last one. It’s natter meets Don't Explain the Joke.

Edited by HeavyMetalHermitCrab on May 19th 2020 at 8:59:31 AM

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#1636: May 22nd 2020 at 8:56:19 AM

That example has been cleaned up.

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jandn2014 SMILE! from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#1637: May 22nd 2020 at 6:04:14 PM

Is the last bullet point on this example from Awesome.Terminator 2 Judgment Day natter? It just seems like it's pointlessly correcting a thing.

  • Sarah Connor's escape from Pescadero State Hospital, which involves beating an orderly senseless (he licked her face earlier, though, and beats her with a baton in a Deleted Scene), holding Dr. Silberman hostage with a syringe full of what is probably drain cleaner, and generally kicking ass (while unarmed, barefoot and wearing only sweat pants and a tank top). When the T-1000 goes after them in the elevator, she demonstrates that she is not the frightened damsel that she was in the previous film (as if it wasn't obvious already) by grabbing a pistol from the T-800's belt and shooting straight through the roof. She doesn't stop shooting until they lose the T-1000.
    • Especially this exchange:
      Silberman: You broke my arm!
      Sarah Connor: There are 215 bones in the human body. That's one.
    • Technically two (radius and ulna).

HeavyMetalHermitCrab Since: Sep, 2018
#1638: May 23rd 2020 at 2:02:02 AM

[up] Absolutely. They aren’t even correcting a post, theyre correcting a movie quote.

They must argue with signposts the their spare time.

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#1639: Jun 8th 2020 at 10:29:05 AM

Found this in SpongeBob SqaurePant's Nightmare Fuel page. Dunno how to clean it up.

  • "Ghost Host", in which the Flying Dutchman's ship breaks down, forcing him to take up residence in Sponge Bob's pineapple. The Dutchman tried several mildly scary things in order to disturb Sponge Bob, and, towards the climax of the episode, appeared as a huge snake with a huge, grotesque baby's head, which melted, turning into an effigy of Sponge Bob, whose eyes elongated into hideous wiggling white worms and squiggled onto the floor while spiders crawled out of his eye sockets and mouth. Also among his forms are a clown's head on the same worm-like creature, and a giant, disturbingly realistic (for this show) insect. It was intended to be a parody of an over-the-top horror movie, but managed to be incredibly horrifying.
    • In all fairness, the point is that the Dutchman has been in Sponge Bob's house so long by that point, and pulling so many scary stunts each day, that Sponge Bob has become immune to and bias about them.
    • One of the Dutchman's forms is inexplicably J. R. "Bob" Dobbs, who comes from the satirical religion of the Church of the Sub Genius. While "Bob" is usually funny, if strange, the reference is so out-of-place that his presence is a bit disconcerting.
    • The Flying Dutchman also did the same thing to scare Squidward in the end because Squidward didn't believe in ghosts. He also manifested himself as a vision of Squid's mother moaning "Why haven't you called meeeee?" and then melting, prompting Squidward to run out of his house screaming.
      • Actually, what caused Squidward to run away screaming was when the Dutchman did a parlor trick that made it look like he was pulling his thumb off one hand.
    • At one part, Sponge Bob opens a fridge and a huge monster head suddenly pops out and screams.

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#1640: Jun 8th 2020 at 10:30:35 AM

[up] I would say to just delete all of the subbullets.

ChillyBeanBAM Whaam! Whacka wow! (Apprentice)
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#1641: Jun 8th 2020 at 1:21:41 PM

Done, altogether there seems to be some natter still. I may remove more of it.

Edited by ChillyBeanBAM on Jun 8th 2020 at 1:22:45 AM

ElBuenCuate Since: Oct, 2010
#1642: Jun 20th 2020 at 7:15:54 PM

I'm sorry of just barging in. I just wanted to check if I could delete most of this example in Screw the Money, I Have Rules!, where most sub-bullets are just responding to the previous one.

Edited by ElBuenCuate on Jun 20th 2020 at 7:16:18 AM

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#1643: Jun 20th 2020 at 7:34:46 PM

While that can probably all be cut for natter alone, it also seems pretty ROCEJ-violating.

ElBuenCuate Since: Oct, 2010
HeavyMetalHermitCrab Since: Sep, 2018
#1645: Jun 20th 2020 at 10:59:44 PM

[up] I'd delete the whole thing because it's a rather putrid mix of Examples Are Not General, questionable examples (Iran is by no means a poor country, so that may have something to do with it being "hard to bribe"), natter, and the extremely naive initial assumption that corruption isn't a serious problem in theocracies, just as it is in any other government model.

ElBuenCuate Since: Oct, 2010
#1646: Jun 20th 2020 at 11:12:02 PM

Ok, I have deleted the post. Thanks for the comments.

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#1647: Jun 30th 2020 at 9:55:01 AM

I fear no man. But Team Fortress 2's Fridge page... it scares me.

Memes aside, some of the examples look like they belong in the Headscratchers page.

Edited by ChillyBeanBAM on Jun 30th 2020 at 2:43:33 AM

FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States Since: Feb, 2016
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#1648: Jun 30th 2020 at 1:40:43 PM

[up] First-Person Writing is not allowed anywhere on the main wiki, including Headscratchers pages.

Limpin' with the bizkit.
Someoneman Since: Nov, 2011
#1649: Jun 30th 2020 at 6:38:29 PM

MisaimedFandom.Myth And Religion has a ton of natter and "correcting" bullet points.

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