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If you spot an article that has more natter than one person can handle without losing their lunch, report it here.

Fix as much as you can bear to, then call on us for help. wink

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Feb 25th 2024 at 10:26:27 AM

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#1526: Jan 12th 2019 at 11:11:27 AM

It's written as a general example, which isn't good writing even if it's trimmed up. It should be substantiated with an specific example from one of his plays.

Playing_with_boy Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#1527: Jan 22nd 2019 at 7:11:40 PM

Part One of This Post: Help with Painful Rhymes that Shakespeare Used.

Now, anyone who can find any examples of Painful Rhymes that Shakespeare used? Sometime this week, I'll go look at Shakespeare's sonnets in Project Gutenberg, which, if you want to help me, you can!


Part Two of This Post: What Could Have Been: That Weird Transformers Toy.

This is the natter that I found while browsing the What Could Have Been page:

While most Transformers fans know about the unproduced Unicron prototypes from the G1 and Beast Wars Neo lines, you probably don't know about this weird guy over here, apparently a prototype for some sort of spinoff for Transformers, that I can literally find nothing other than that link about. I really want to hear more about this strange, aborted branch of the Transformers line, so can anybody help me out?

Now, I am pretty sure that I should remove everything after "spinoff for Transformers", but, maybe we could turn this into a better example of What Could Have Been. What do you think?

Edited by Playing_with_boy on Jan 22nd 2019 at 7:12:00 AM

JRads47 Since: Nov, 2014
#1528: Jan 24th 2019 at 12:21:09 AM

Creator.Nintendo reeks of natter disguising itself as objective tropes. For example:

  • Last of His Kind: Third-party publishers have recently been accused of spoiling the experience with DLC and other transactions that give players who spend more money an unfair advantage, and a few of these publishers such as EA have chosen to stop supporting Nintendo. As a result, some fans of Nintendo have referred to the Wii U as the last real gaming console.

Playing_with_boy Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#1529: Jan 24th 2019 at 4:40:30 PM

Well, I guess we may need some sources proving that some people call Wii U the last gaming console because the gaming companies' use of third-party transactions.

wingedcatgirl mys. minty from the silly dimension from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
mys. minty from the silly dimension
#1530: Jan 24th 2019 at 4:58:48 PM

No, no, no citations. "The last video game console" just isn't Last of Its Kind even if we agree that it's true.

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
HighCrate Since: Mar, 2015
#1531: Jan 24th 2019 at 7:49:27 PM

Edited by HighCrate on Jan 24th 2019 at 7:49:39 AM

jamaicanst01 Since: Apr, 2018
#1532: Feb 7th 2019 at 9:37:51 AM

In The Secret of NIMH, there's this entry:

  • Didn't Think This Through: Jenner's plan is clever in theory: destroy the Brisby House and kill Nicodemus so that the rats are stuck on the farm and he can become their ruler. The flaw in the plan is that he won't be able to rule them for very long because soon the rosebush will be destroyed and they'll all die.
    • It's not so much he didn't think of that problem, as much as he is so stubborn (and somewhat unhinged) in his efforts that he refused to believe it when warned.
      • It's also implied that their success at thwarting the humans in the past have made him cocky to the point of being almost suicidally reckless — during the argument at the council before Justin interrupts, you can clearly hear one of the council members speaking of the danger of being found out by the humans, with Jenner's response essentially being "they can't kill us if we strike first."

How should this be edited? Is it an example of the trope?

MissMokushiroku Ace Gamer from Atlanta, Georgia, USA Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Ace Gamer
#1533: Feb 9th 2019 at 1:53:49 PM

SeriousBusiness.RealLife needs some serious cleaning. Lots of natter, improper indentation, first-person language, repeated examples (I think the Italian food police are mentioned about 5 times)...it's just a mess.

Edited by MissMokushiroku on Feb 9th 2019 at 4:54:03 AM

Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#1534: Feb 10th 2019 at 5:15:31 AM

Stock "Yuck!" is very messy and full of natter. It's likely supposed to be "Food: Sub-bullets are examples", but all the proper indentation means that much of the page is trying to explain why people hate the food.

Edited by Pichu-kun on Feb 20th 2019 at 6:52:59 AM

Someoneman Since: Nov, 2011
#1535: Feb 20th 2019 at 6:52:09 AM

Found this Buffy the Vampire Slayer example on The Hedonist that argues with itself. I commented it out until it can be fixed.

  • One key difference between Faith and Buffy was this. Faith lived life every second like she wanted to... and when accidents happened (like the murder of an innocent) that knocked Buffy for a loop, she merely "took care of the body" and went on as if nothing happened.
    • Except she was obviously feeling guilty as hell. And while she clearly enjoyed being able to do what she wanted, when she wanted, what she truly desired was a life more like Buffy's and, if she couldn't have that, make Buffy become more like her to ease the jealousy.
    • Early Faith is a Nietzschean, not a Hedonist. Being a Slayer (she thinks) means you are Above Good and Evil and can do whatever you want. Saving x lives means you can kill any number of people less than x, since you will still be in the plus column.

[up][up][up][up][up][up][up] I don't think you're supposed to list tropes describing the creator itself on Creator pages. I removed this example and other such tropes.

Edited by Someoneman on Feb 20th 2019 at 10:18:42 AM

Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#1536: Mar 8th 2019 at 9:18:22 AM

From Vague Age, about Teen Titans:

  • They're all teenagers between 13 and 20. That's all that's stated about their ages but these in the animated version look like young adults but are teenagers. Raven has a plot-relevant birthday that fits the Dangerous Birthday trope, but no one actually ever mentions her age.

"But these in the animated version look like young adults but are teenagers" was added on a few weeks ago. But it seems nattery and incorrect to me. The Titans look like teens to me.

Playing_with_boy Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#1537: Mar 8th 2019 at 11:34:23 AM

I agree with [up], and the natter section has pour grammer [sic].

Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#1538: May 8th 2019 at 6:54:23 AM

NightmareFuel.The LEGO Movie's got quite a lot of side comments and contradictory subbullets.

[down] Cool. [tup]

Edited by Berrenta on May 8th 2019 at 6:06:44 AM

razorrozar7 Migrated to Chloe Jessica! from Chloe Jessica Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#1540: May 8th 2019 at 10:10:35 AM

The single entry in the Real Life folder on Oh, the Humanity! reads like a chat log.

It does seem like there's some noteworthy info in there, but it's currently a mess and I have no idea what to keep and what to toss.

razorrozar7 Migrated to Chloe Jessica! from Chloe Jessica Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Migrated to Chloe Jessica!
#1541: May 8th 2019 at 11:51:03 AM

[up]my attempt at cleaning it up:

  • The Trope Maker: Famously spoken by Herbert Morrison, a WLS Radio announcer witnessing The Hindenburg disaster. Warning, extremely sobering moment. Morrison and his assistant Charlie Nehlsen were making an experimental audio recording; a malfunction in the recording equipment caused Morrison's voice to be recorded at a much higher pitch than it should have been. It was played on WLS that night and on the NBC Radio Network the following day, but not dubbed onto newsreel footage until some time later. Today, the discs reside in the National Archives.

thoughts?

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Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#1543: May 19th 2019 at 7:13:45 PM

Anyone know how to streamline this Americans Hate Tingle example from YMMV.Yokai Watch?

  • While this franchise is huge back in Japan, a majority of American consumers have responded with little to no interest, though both the games and anime have still gained a small but incredibly loyal fanbase there. First, there's indifference from the fact that it deals with the childish aspects of Japanese Mythology (which, while popular among certain niches in the US, a number of them prefer the darker and bloodier side of it, while some don't get the specific references). Then, theres the seething hatred caused by a massive Fandom Rivalry with Pokémon (which already exists in Japan, but not to the extent of the US's), due to Nintendo being the licensor outside of Japan, people calling it a "Pokemon killer" judging by the Japanese sales (Ignoring the gaming culture differences between the US and Japan), and trying to promote the heck out of the game, leading to some Hype Backlash. With the release of Yo-kai Watch 2, most of the hate seems to have died down. However, some have turned to Yokai Watch as a scapegoat (alongside Pokémon GO) due to the perceived dumbing down of the Mainline Pokemon games. This came to a boil after Pokémon Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!‘s release and when the fourth game's trailer for the Switch. Because Yokai Watch's popularity in Japan has (supposedly) influenced the direction of the Pokémon Anime to a more school Slice of Life style as opposed to the more adventure driven previous seasons, some have assumed that Let's Go's design changes and Lighter and Softer nature are attributed to an attempt to appeal to Yokai Watch fans. (Never mind that the manga has always run in a magazine targeted at grade-schoolers). One of the reasons for the anime is the fact that it is a little difficult to watch legitimately. For awhile its timeslots were changing awhile and it would often come on with very little advertisement.

Edited by Pichu-kun on May 19th 2019 at 7:15:38 AM

IukaSylvie from Kyoto, Japan Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#1545: May 24th 2019 at 9:02:10 AM

Remind me where I said that? Not ringing a bell.

IukaSylvie from Kyoto, Japan Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#1546: May 24th 2019 at 4:13:31 PM

~nombretomado, I requested an edit request on YMMV.The Bible based on the entries under the Christianity folder in MisaimedFandom.Myth And Religion. But since you said it was a mess of indentation and natter, I decided to help fix the problem.

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#1547: May 24th 2019 at 4:46:06 PM

Found my response, which did advise trimming of the entries you had copied for cross-wicking. I did not review the page as a whole.

Edited by nombretomado on May 24th 2019 at 4:47:27 AM

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#1548: Jun 21st 2019 at 8:54:56 PM

The page-top description at Page Three Stunna is full of natter.

Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#1549: Jul 2nd 2019 at 8:44:04 AM

There's a ton of nattering and subbullets in Loot Drama, which I found after sorting through cases of Linking to an Article Within the Article.

Playing_with_boy Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#1550: Jul 2nd 2019 at 6:09:18 PM

Gonna remove the bullet-pointed example of Page Three Stunna.


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