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Name has nothing to do with the trope: Reverse Blade Sword

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Bailey from Next Sunday, A.D. Since: Jan, 2001
DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#27: Sep 8th 2010 at 5:24:22 PM

So this is that getting hit with a blade is only dangerous as the plot demands?

Exactly.

Rhatahema Since: Sep, 2010
#29: Sep 10th 2010 at 1:46:36 AM

References to actual reverse blade swords and nonlethal weapons can be chopped. However, most other examples could probably fall under Bloodless Carnage, Non-Lethal K.O., and Made of Iron. Plot Based Lethality is also covered with Plotline Death. Not sure what's left, except maybe a focus on inconstant use of violence and death in a particular work, such as heart-extraction=knockout.

Michael So that's what this does Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
So that's what this does
#30: Sep 10th 2010 at 6:25:45 AM

This does appear to be eerily similar to Non-Lethal K.O..

Bailey from Next Sunday, A.D. Since: Jan, 2001
#31: Sep 10th 2010 at 4:34:24 PM

The description is unduly focused on KO'd opponents in fighting games, making this seem suspiciously similar to Non-Lethal K.O..

Looking at it a little more broadly, the trope may be "rather than immediately killing or incapacitating you, swords and other bladed weapons in video games tend to slowly chip away at your health, just like any other weapon."

That's where I'm getting Blunt Sword Damage from. Alternatively: All Damage Is Incremental? Swords Are Pointless?

edited 10th Sep '10 4:39:26 PM by Bailey

TheInferno |Y| = |X| Add 5 from probably on Earth Since: Jul, 2010
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#32: Sep 10th 2010 at 4:45:40 PM

Bailey, I think from what Wulf said, it's "Even though you may be using a sword or machine gun in a fighting game, at the end of the round it says it's a "Knock-out" rather than someone was killed"

"The fact that your food can be made into makeshift bombs alarms the Hell out of me, Scrye." - Charlatan
Bailey from Next Sunday, A.D. Since: Jan, 2001
#33: Sep 10th 2010 at 5:06:36 PM

Oops. I somehow missed Wulf's post. Sorry about that.

From that description, this does appear to be quite close to Non-Lethal K.O..

TheInferno |Y| = |X| Add 5 from probably on Earth Since: Jul, 2010
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#34: Sep 10th 2010 at 5:19:42 PM

Eh, I'd say it's at least a subtrope to it, but *shrug*

"The fact that your food can be made into makeshift bombs alarms the Hell out of me, Scrye." - Charlatan
Fnor Does not work that way from Haha, no. Since: Jun, 2010
Does not work that way
#35: Sep 10th 2010 at 6:33:18 PM

I think most of it does fall under Non-Lethal K.O., but there is definitely a separate trope for a weapon's/character's ability to selectively deal actual damage. It's a much smaller trope and it has a decent amount of overlap, but I'm nto sure it's a subtrope.

So, throw the Non-Lethal K.O. examples into that trope then take the remainder and build it up as Selectively Lethal or whatever, as has been previously suggested.

DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#36: Sep 11th 2010 at 10:37:41 AM

Again, this trope seems to be spelling out instances where attacking something with a weapon leaves no physical alterations to appearance. Just not showing physical damage or taking actual lethality of a weapon into consideration for how much damage it should do.

GiantSpaceChinchilla Since: Oct, 2009
#37: Oct 30th 2010 at 9:52:10 PM

Sword Set To Stun or just Set To Stun?

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
jebuz I've been Bluelinked from Australia Since: Jan, 2001
I've been Bluelinked
#39: Oct 31st 2010 at 2:47:41 AM

A Non-Lethal K.O. that occurs when hit by an attack that should really be lethal in a realistic context. Or alternatively, an attack that should be lethal does scratch damage (ie. lightsabres).

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DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
BlackWolfe Viewer Gender Confusion? from Lost in Austin Since: Jun, 2010
#41: Oct 31st 2010 at 2:53:51 AM

Set Swords to "Stun" is beautiful.

But soft! What rock through yonder window breaks? It is a brick! And Juliet is out cold.
Rhatahema Since: Sep, 2010
#42: Oct 31st 2010 at 3:43:59 AM

Set Swords to "Stun" is good. I don't like Sword Set To Stun as much, but I think it's a lot easier to place in a sentence (Alice impaled Bob, but he must have had his Sword Set To Stun.) I'd like to see it as a redirect.

So, about the trope itself. Is this going to be narrowed down to instances of a character conciously using a normally lethal weapon for non-lethal purposes?

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#43: Oct 31st 2010 at 4:05:23 AM

No, it's about using swords and blades that don't kill people, just hurt them.

Fight smart, not fair.
Rhatahema Since: Sep, 2010
#44: Oct 31st 2010 at 4:15:07 AM

^? You're saying this is about using a sword that does not have the potential to kill someone, only the potential to hurt them? Do you mean to say that this is acknowledged in-universe, or that the weapon has every reason to deal lethal damage, but doesn't (as a sister trope to Bloodless Carnage and Non-Lethal K.O.?)

edited 31st Oct '10 4:15:38 AM by Rhatahema

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#45: Oct 31st 2010 at 10:37:57 AM

No, ignore the trope namer. It started as a video game trope, specifically fighting games, where hitting someone with the edge of a sword did not cut them. It has since been expanded to using edged weapons that wind up not killing people when you expect them to.

Fight smart, not fair.
Sackett Since: Jan, 2001
#46: Oct 31st 2010 at 1:03:37 PM

Set Swords to "Stun" is perfect

edited 31st Oct '10 1:03:44 PM by Sackett

GameChainsaw The Shadows Devour You. from sunshine and rainbows! Since: Oct, 2010
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#48: Oct 31st 2010 at 2:38:44 PM

I'll jump on the Set Swords to "Stun" bandwagon. It's pretty clever.

Wulf Gotta trope, dood! from Louisiana Since: Jan, 2001
Gotta trope, dood!
#49: Oct 31st 2010 at 4:13:25 PM

I fully support Set Swords to "Stun"...wish I'd thought of it when I made the damn trope, and saved some trouble..

They lost me. Forgot me. Made you from parts of me. If you're the One, my father's son, what am I supposed to be?
SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#50: Oct 31st 2010 at 4:22:51 PM

I remove that "proportional to the desire to kill" line because it didn't seem to connect with any possible interpretation given to us. You can put it back if needs be but maybe reading it this way, it actually seems more coherent. Also the Troper Namer part.

And I also like Swords Set To Stun.


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