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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#1: Nov 19th 2010 at 7:11:50 PM

Is the Joker on the Short List of Truly Recognizable Characters? (Jesus, Superman, Batman...)

If yes, is this image obviously the Joker?

(I know it is, so I can't tell.)

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#2: Nov 19th 2010 at 7:22:37 PM

I think The Joker is on the short list.

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#3: Nov 19th 2010 at 7:56:15 PM

We really need to write that list down somewhere.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#4: Nov 19th 2010 at 8:02:39 PM

I think the reason it's not is that the mods don't want to be constantly bombarded with "but this character is totally famous with the fandom.

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#5: Nov 19th 2010 at 8:16:44 PM

I would like to believe that The Joker is recognizable enough on his own, and I do see how the image is a good fit, but I'd still be a little curious to see other pictures that anyone else may have that exemplifies Chaotic Evil.

ThePope Since: Oct, 2010
#6: Nov 19th 2010 at 8:17:56 PM

Yeah, Joker is definitely up there at the cream of the crop. At least as far as comic books go, he's probably the most recognizable comic book villain of all time, especially for non-readers.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#7: Nov 19th 2010 at 8:30:27 PM

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I'm personally a fan of the second to last.

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ThePope Since: Oct, 2010
#8: Nov 19th 2010 at 8:39:44 PM

I still think that the current one does the job of showing him as nuts perfectly.

RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#9: Nov 19th 2010 at 8:41:10 PM

It really does. Even if you are one of the dozen or so people who has never heard of the Joker the image is the embodiment of what it means to be Chaotic Evil.

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#10: Nov 19th 2010 at 8:43:24 PM

^^I agree. What I meant when I said that I was curious in seeing other pictures, I meant wanting to see other pictures that show different ways of conveying Chaotic Evil.

edited 19th Nov '10 8:43:37 PM by SeanMurrayI

XyloGirl Um... Since: Oct, 2010
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#11: Nov 19th 2010 at 11:41:46 PM

Maybe there should be a locked thread at the top of the forum with the short list of Truely Recognisable Characters for reference?

edited 19th Nov '10 11:42:39 PM by XyloGirl

ThePope Since: Oct, 2010
#12: Nov 19th 2010 at 11:49:40 PM

From what little I've seen, it seems like the list of "Truly Recognizable Characters" boils down to a few comic book characters, God and Satan, and maybe some Star Wars stuff thrown in for giggles.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#13: Nov 20th 2010 at 12:22:45 AM

The way to get in is to be A)so famous that people who have never seen your source media know who you are and B) have intense staying power so that you're still famous .

Comic book characters tend to meet this standard the most because they've been around for decades (some before television) while also being thrown into a large variety of media, in particular movies. Visual media are the best since, you know, there's a visual component. As far as I know, the only video games that was phenomenally famous and had sufficient staying power is Tetris with Mario being a close second.

edited 20th Nov '10 12:23:09 AM by Deboss

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#14: Nov 20th 2010 at 12:27:08 AM

Would Tetris blocks be on the list?

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#15: Nov 20th 2010 at 10:04:56 AM

He is a classic comic book supervillain, and a major character from one of the highest-grossing movies of all time. That is pretty damn recognizable.

Plus, the pic is arguably better than most Character Alignment pics for demonstrating its alignment. He is evidently writing in blood, which is obviously somewhat sinister; Neutral Evil would have probably saved the blood for more practical use. Lawful Evil... probably would have used the blood according to tradition or historical precedent, (ok that is just exaggeration but you get the idea) and I am guessing using it to write WHY SO SERIOUS would not meet that.

edited 20th Nov '10 10:07:23 AM by neoYTPism

McJeff McJeff from probably sitting at a computer Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
#16: Nov 20th 2010 at 7:57:51 PM

Um, the picture on Chaotic Evil was Alex DeLarge for years. Why was it changed?

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#18: Nov 20th 2010 at 8:21:00 PM

Yes. It was deemed that he wasn't nearly as well known as the Joker.

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DJMarred from Limbo Since: May, 2010
#19: Nov 28th 2010 at 10:34:43 PM

I don't know who Alex De Large is, but I know who the Joker is. Others would feel the same way as me. The Joker also frequently conveys Chaotic Evil philosophy during his dialogue ("The only sensible way to live in this world is to live without rules", "i'm an agent of chaos"). So we should keep him.

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Leaper Since: May, 2009
#20: Nov 28th 2010 at 11:04:14 PM

Yeah, many of those years, Alex was part of a demotivator, which is why he stuck around for so long. Once the demotivator went away, there was less real reason to keep him.

ThePope Since: Oct, 2010
#21: Jan 8th 2011 at 3:42:48 PM

I really think there's no reason to keep discussing this; Joker is a perfectly recognizable example and fits just as well. Can we lock this?

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#22: Jan 8th 2011 at 7:40:32 PM

I think so. Also, besides being recognizable, it is a guy dressed in clown colors finger painting an ominous message in blood, pretty chaotic evil scenario.

edited 8th Jan '11 7:40:41 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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AdeptusAlpharius Alpha Legionnaire from Bosnia and Herzegovina Since: Dec, 2010
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#23: Jan 9th 2011 at 5:19:07 AM

I think the current picture is perfectly okay.

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