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I recommend hitting that one on a newgame+, as it's only available in that chapter. If I recall correctly.
but if you really want to go through all that level grinding!
No idea, sorry. I think the pack with all the DLC characters is either 50 USD in the North American PSN store or 50 AUD in the Australian PSN store, but I don't know about anywhere else and I don't think that includes the extra classes and Command Attack or whatever that extra Item World mode is called.
It's probably best to take all this with a grain of salt. I'm going off of memory of a Kotaku article I'm not sure ever existed.
edited 14th Jun '10 8:09:44 AM by SuperDimensionman
I'm on my second NG+ now, but it'd been due to ending the game early both times, so I think I'll leave that chapter alone for now.
(Also: just checked the UK Disgaea 3 DLC prices. Apparentely, it's £39.99 for the complete package... which would be almost twice the price I'm looking for to buy the game. Unless the individual prices are much cheaper since I only want a few things, screw it.)
-edit- Ah-ha, cut by Super Dimensionman. That's good to know, but I think most of that shouldn't be too much for me. I just wanted a few specific character/dungeons (e.g. Adell).
edited 14th Jun '10 7:56:37 AM by AllanAokage
I don't remember if you can buy individual characters, or if you have to buy them grouped by their game of origin, but I think they're either 1 or 2 USD per character in the US PSN store, if that gives you any idea of how much you might have to pay.
...yeaaah, I think I might not bother with the DLC at all =/ I'm not a fan of DLC in any case, and the kind of DLC that Disgaea 3 practices isn't as preferable as, say, Tales of Vesperia's.
Then again, I may not get the game to begin with. We'll just have to wait and, ah-ha, see.
@Cidolphas: The writing is fantastic. Definitely up to par with the original.
Etna's voice actor doesn't seem to be as good as usual, but everyone else has the same actor and sounds about the same as they did in the original.
edited 14th Jun '10 11:14:38 AM by Miijhal
So, she's got a third voice actress, or are you comparing Michelle Ruff and... uh, Kim Mai Guest? I'm not good with voice actors. I had to look up both of those x.x
Whoops, mis-read your post. My mistake.
edited 14th Jun '10 11:29:49 AM by AllanAokage
Sounds promising, then. Maybe I'll give it a whirl. It's between that and Chaos Rings...
Quick question for people who have played and beaten the first game: how are you supposed to level characters like the clerics and Flonne? Gaining XP is based on killing enemies, and those characters aren't exactly power houses(at first in any case, I am rather early in the game and I don't know if they get awesome or not)
For Flonne, I made her use a Crossbow. If you want to keep her a medic, then use the crossbow until level 50, where she can switch to a rod and deal massive damage with her level 50 skill and heal a ton of HP with the power of love.
^^Generally, using team combo attacks on the one map with all invincibility tiles and succubi/nekomata, or creating mages under them so that they can learn other spells.
Flonne is a bit easier to level, because after a while she gets ahold of a very powerful spell.
I was afraid that would be the answer. Thanks.
The alternative is to give them a bow for a few battles.
I've pretty much defaulted to giving my healers crossbows (in games where they have decent bow aptitude). The one you get in Disgaea 3 starts out with one. It's really the only way they can get mana (unless you have them use a lot of Mana Potions), as staves are terrible about melee damage.
Alternatively, you could have one of them apprentice a mage or two and have them "learn" the mage's spells, so that they could heal AND do damage...
Oh god, Disgaea. I always end up making way too many characters and trying to juggle them all as the overleveled enemies pound me into dust.
Just recently I started Disgaea 2 and am trying to not have more than...perhaps 15 characters. Let's see what happens.
So I fear I may have gotten an Ally Kill in Makai Kingdom. Does the Good Ending count kills from all previous playthroughs, or only the current one?
edited 14th Jun '10 10:28:30 PM by Ianator
I don't know about Makai Kingdom, but in Disgaea a new game + will reset your friendly kill counter. I imagine Makai is the same.
In the main campaign of D3, I typically use the Robber Shop club for mana.
Healing still isn't as good as killing things for the purposes of leveling up, though, so one thing you can do is to keep a staff with some RES in your inventory, and switch between that and a bow depending on the situation. Since you don't have to level up Weapon Mastery in D3, you can use both with full effectiveness.
Of course, you'll necessarily suck with your bow because you don't have the stats for it. It's hard enough to make a good bow user when that's your only goal, let alone make someone good at both healing and using a bow. Oh yeah, also skill levels.
It's true that a Cleric won't do as much damage as a Lady Fighter, for instance, but it can still be useful. The main campaign isn't difficult enough that you have to squeeze every point of damage out of every character on every turn like you do in the postgame, or so I'm told.
It does mean spending some mana on picking up bow skills instead of support magic, but I never found that to be much of a problem.
But it becomes several times less likely for you to get the final hit on an enemy, and therefore experience, if you're relatively weak compared to your party.
My Clerics are almost always my hardest-hitters. Throw a mage-pupil on them, learn spells, and unleash the elemental PAIN! Each time you re-incarnate the cleric, just re-incarnate the mage into a different element. Eventually your cleric has all the schools and you can finally re-incarnate the mage-pupil into a second cleric. Twin CoDZillas. Awww-Yea!
edited 15th Jun '10 12:59:09 AM by ArcanGenth
That's true, but it's possible to mitigate that with combined skills. It's still a less-than-perfect solution, but sometimes getting half the XP for a kill is better than subsisting entirely on what you can get from healing.
The Honor Students club is another option, but I've never really made much use of it, so I don't know how well that works.
edited 15th Jun '10 1:02:30 AM by SuperDimensionman
Does Disgaea 3 keep stack attacking? If so, you can level them up with that?
Also: went to the nearest game store today, couldn't find any Disgaea games. I may have to go to Cardiff on the weekend, since there's... three/four game stores there. One of them should have a cheap, pre-owned Disgaea 3.
Do you mean attacks where characters carrying other characters attack all at once? Yes.
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