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hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED]
Parasol Star Memories
Feb 17th 2010 at 6:58:38 PM

Sort of long spoiler Canas in 16X, Zoldam the boss of 17, the boss whose name I don't remember of 19XX (HM), and Nergal.

edited 17th Feb '10 7:00:56 PM by hnd03

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
Longfellow Fractally long
Fractally long
Feb 17th 2010 at 7:29:34 PM

There are a fair number of Shaman mooks, though.

Anyways, what makes Lucius good isn't triangle-advantage but the fact that he's fast and strong and he attacks at range. Since most enemies have low RES he can 1-round lots of mooks without risk of counterattack.

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Kayeka World's biggest wannabe from Amsterdam Relationship Status: Brony
World's biggest wannabe
Feb 18th 2010 at 7:22:22 AM

^True, I was just stating him as an example for how awesome a bishop/saint can be. And the elemental advantage surely didn't make him any worse.

Oh, and my Lucius also had enourmous skill, for some reason. Basicly, he could double attack, always hit, AND have a decent chance for a critical.

He laid down the holy judgement like a pro!

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hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED]
Parasol Star Memories
Feb 18th 2010 at 2:39:12 PM

Well pretty much all light magic tomes increase critical rate, even if it's relatively low. It's still more than other magic types though. Thunder, maybe Aircalibur (can't remember), and Luna are the only ones that I can think of that have it.

Oh and I forgot Heintz in Chapter 7.

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
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Your army sucks.
Feb 18th 2010 at 3:20:32 PM

@hnd I was talking about Radiant Dawn.

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hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED]
Parasol Star Memories
Feb 18th 2010 at 5:05:09 PM

Well we were going off a tangent when Lucius was brought up. Sorry.

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
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Court Dragon
Mar 21st 2010 at 9:28:42 PM

So, anyone have advice for Blazing Blade's final chapter? It's cool to have all this great equipment, but I have problems taking out the first wave of Morphs. You know, the one led by the Nomad Trooper?

Also: Should I give those powerful new tomes that Athos came with to Lucius and Erk? Seems they need them more than he does.

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that one kid
Mar 21st 2010 at 9:41:19 PM

Aah, been long enough that I forget how that chapter went...

Re the tomes, giving them to Lucy Lucius ad Erk could be helpful, but IIRC at least one of them only works for Athos.

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Court Dragon
Mar 21st 2010 at 9:44:46 PM

Well, Aureola works fine on Lucius (And I mean it works really well, holy crap is that an awesome spell.) so perhaps it's Forblaze that only works for Athos.

Erk has a newly won Fimbulvetr anyway, so... (Lucius has Divine, as well, but screw that, Aureola is far better.)

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Court Dragon
Mar 21st 2010 at 10:14:00 PM

OK. I'm making progress. It's all a matter of letting the ridiculously high-powered Morphs come to me and then pegging them with high-powered magic such that they can't instakill me in response. And then having room for their S-ranked weapons. (My god is Luce ever an awesome spell...)

Edit:.... aaaaand then I lost to the Dragon. Because it wasn't until after I had attacked him a few times that I realized "Oh crap this battle isn't a scripted victory", and I got Hector killed despite my best efforts to get everyone out of attack range. Because he was Rescuing Eliwood and became heavy enough to be dual-attacked. Meh.

edited 21st Mar '10 10:41:01 PM by Enlong

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Indeed
Mar 22nd 2010 at 3:12:40 AM

For that last bit, I know for a fact that Athos can do the job by himself (I know it because I didn't level my lords and that's how I had to do it). Just use your healers to bring him back to full health and rescue and/or use Nils to get him out of counter-attack range. Actually, what I used to do was attack, heal, grant Athos an extra turn, have him attack again, then rescue him. I suppose if I had more healing power healing him back at that point would have been just as good.

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Cheeky son of a....
Mar 22nd 2010 at 4:10:11 AM

Okay, shadow dragon. Haven't played it yet, but I'm a fan of the series. I've been challenged to beat hard mode, and no, I've never even touched noral. I'm borrowing it. So, I'm preparing for hell...Rules of engagement state I'm not allowed to use a walkthrough, or get tips or anything, but I think I can get away with a general "Besides Jaigen, who's utter shit and I should ignore them?"

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Shadow Man
Mar 22nd 2010 at 10:03:40 AM

@Xiphonii: I'm no Shadow Dragon expert, but both the first knight you get and the priest you get in the first chapter aren't really worth it from what I've heard. The knight gets great defense, but he'll always get double-attacked, so he isn't really worth it, and the priest gets outclassed by later characters.

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Court Dragon
Mar 22nd 2010 at 10:15:17 AM

OK sweet, I completed the game! (and got annoyed by slow, autoscrolling text-based cutscenes that can't be paused or advanced like every other text in the game) Now to try Hector Mode.

Should I do Lyn mode again before starting a Hector game, or should I not care about any bonuses?

Oh, and here's something "awesome". I spent the entire game carefully rationing my uses of the Mani Katti and Wolf Beil, only to get two stronger legendary weapons for the same unites, on top of even stronger S-ranked weapons in the final chapter, making my conservation totally pointless! Grr.

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World's biggest wannabe
Mar 22nd 2010 at 10:52:30 AM

Yup, those weapons were just Too Awesome to Use.

Anyhow, I played Lyn's story again before going for Hector. You get quite a few extra levels to start with, as well as several items such as power ring and angelic robe. It's not neccesary, but it sure works just fine.

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Xiphoniii Cheeky son of a.... from Florida
Cheeky son of a....
Mar 22nd 2010 at 11:44:34 AM

Well, this sucks...I've reset chapter one about twenty times in the last few minutes. I don't even get to play the prologue! There go my few levels...

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that one kid
Mar 22nd 2010 at 3:39:18 PM

@Xiphoniii: Hate it when that happens...

Man, I need to actually beat Hector mode on FE 7.

OH WAIT NO I should do my homework...

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Court Dragon
Mar 22nd 2010 at 7:37:22 PM

Ugh redoing Lyn's tale is such a pain. Going through the Forced Tutorial sucks, and the only way to unforce it is doing Hard mode, which was suicidal enough on Eliwood mode.

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jtmmachine Shadow Man from The Other Side
Shadow Man
Mar 22nd 2010 at 8:22:08 PM

@Enlong: It sounds like you haven't gone through Lyn's Hard Mode before? I almost always start a playthrough of the game on that mode, so I might just be used to it, but I don't find it that much harder than Normal Mode. The only thing you have to change is to let the enemy—especially bosses—initiate battle with you: I didn't know that my first time around, and was rather shocked when I attacked Batta the Beast first and he ended up killing me on his turn.

If you can get through Eliwood's Normal Mode, let alone his Hard Mode, Lyn's Hard Mode should be pretty easy. Getting rid of that tutorial more than makes up for any difficulty you may have—trust me. cool

edited 22nd Mar '10 8:23:54 PM by jtmmachine

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Court Dragon
Mar 22nd 2010 at 9:19:35 PM

Nah, I've gone through Lyn's Hard mode before. I know it ain't that bad. In fact, I did it solely to remove the tutorial once.

See, here's what happened. I got the game for my birthday or whatever; I started with Lyn's mode, and then when that was done, I had a choice of Eliwood or Hector (The game was used, you see, so the previous owner had already unlocked Hector mode). I chose Hector Mode, and realized too late that Eliwood was supposed to be the initial main character. So I went back and started a file with Eliwood's mode, but then I realized that I was missing out on stuff because that file hadn't done Lyn mode.

So then I started Lyn Hard Mode to purge the tutorial, and I got about as far as Chapter 26, "Battle Before Dawn" before I realized. "You know, this is still my first freaking time playing this game. Hard mode is more of a challenge, but there's a difference between an increase in difficulty and the game spawning a pack of Wyvern Riders every freaking round. Right now, it's so much of a spike in difficulty that I'm not having any fun with it. I should just go back and restart on Normal".

So I bit the bullet and restarted the whole game on Lyn Normal Mode. And I won, recently.

And I've heard what this wiki has to say about Hector Hard Mode, so I am not attempting that on my first run of Hector Mode, when Eliwood Hard Mode turned me off the difficulty setting.

I'm just griping because there doesn't appear to be a way to do Lyn's story on Normal without trudging through the tutorial again.

edited 22nd Mar '10 9:20:49 PM by Enlong

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What's That Zach?
Mar 22nd 2010 at 9:35:23 PM

I'm a dirty cheater and have been emulating Blazing Sword. I'm at the last area too. My team is all right, but I wish I used Sain instead of Lowen. Lowen is total garbage, he can't even attack twice because his speed is so abmysally low and he's a freakin' paladin. He's the only character I regret using, everybody else kicks ass. The last level is still a pain the ass though.

jtmmachine Shadow Man from The Other Side
Shadow Man
Mar 22nd 2010 at 9:38:22 PM

@Enlong: Ah, I gotcha!

But you should've been given an option to choose between Eliwood Normal and Eliwood Hard difficulty regardless on whether you beat Lyn's mode on Normal or Hard... Or maybe that's only for Hector's mode. It's been a while since I've played.

The last time I played, I was trying to go through Eliwood Hard Mode and failing... and I've beaten this game several times! I can't imagine what it'd be like for someone to go through that as their first time through the game!

EDIT: I agree, it would've been nice to be able to toggle the tutorial on and off instead of it being based on difficulty. That extra EXP from Normal mode would make playthroughs of Eliwood or Hector's Hard Mode much easier...

edited 22nd Mar '10 9:40:37 PM by jtmmachine

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Court Dragon
Mar 22nd 2010 at 9:42:33 PM

Ah, that last level. Just remember, let the Morphs come to you, but don't put yourself in their range, or else their S-ranked weaponry will end you.

And I suggest stripping Athos of everything but Forblaze, give the legendary weapons to your lords (of course), give that light tome Athos has to Lucius (or Serra or Priscilla, or whoever has S-rank Light), and load Athos up with whateever other awesome magic you have, and make sure he has a Luna tome. I can't stress the awesomeness of Luna enough.

Oh, fun fact, I was doing my second clean run of the final level, and when I had Athos step up to soften up Nergal with Luna, he criticaled, and one-shotted the "final" boss. So satisfying.

Geez I got off on a tangent. Oh yeah, I actually never ended up classing up any of my Cavaliers. I just used other units more, I guess.

Florina, for example, turned out awesome. S-ranked spears, amazing movement, and after "Battle Before Dawn", I gave her the Delphi Shield and everything became cake for her. Love that Pegasus knight.

Does anyone else have this weird need to build their final army with nothing but units that you have personally raised and classed up from their first class? I have this strange aversion to using units that came with a class-up from the start.

Edit: ^ Maybe there is, I dunno. Eh. Gonna bite the bullet and do it anyway (though maybe I don't need to; for some reason I can't pick hard mode for Hector on a new file. Maybe you have to beat normal mode first)

edited 22nd Mar '10 9:43:51 PM by Enlong

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What's That Zach?
Mar 22nd 2010 at 9:54:09 PM

Horsemen and aerial units tend to be my favorites so I use them most of the time. Florina, Kent, and Heath pretty much became my three man wrecking crew up until the last level. Though I made sure the rest of the team was leveled up too.

edited 22nd Mar '10 9:54:33 PM by Scisless


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