Follow TV Tropes

Following

Fire Emblem

Go To

RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Team Rocket Boss.
#92226: Nov 24th 2022 at 10:43:47 AM

Huh.

Then I have no idea why she's so frail attack wise then.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Nov 24th 2022 at 1:47:18 PM

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
MisterTambourineMan Unbeugsame Klinge from Under a tree Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
Unbeugsame Klinge
#92227: Nov 24th 2022 at 10:45:00 AM

RNG-screwed, probably.

Nach jeder Ebbe kommt die Flut.
Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
#92228: Nov 24th 2022 at 11:35:36 AM

[up]No, it's not RNG-screwed, she's literally programmed to not get a lot of strength through her level ups. Nobody can figure out why, because she's clearly characterized as possessing monstrous strength, with her model showing her abs and muscles, and it's not a glitch because she would have been fixed for Revelations otherwise.

Edited by Resileafs on Nov 24th 2022 at 2:35:59 PM

RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Team Rocket Boss.
#92229: Nov 24th 2022 at 11:40:31 AM

Devs implying that Rinkah has painted on abs? [lol]

Honestly, Rinkah being such a bad unit for my first run back in 2016 is part of why I picked Conquest.

Man, takes me back to happier pre-COVID times.

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
Down with the Privileged🪓
RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Team Rocket Boss.
#92231: Nov 24th 2022 at 11:43:08 AM

[up] This IS the game that gave ALL the royal weapons to the men, and not the women.

In TWO separate families.

Female Corrin is the exception that proves the rule.

In FE Engage topics, I love how the fanbase is clowning on the clown outfits the ladies are wearing:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fe_clown.jpg

Edited by RedHunter543 on Nov 24th 2022 at 2:43:54 PM

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
Down with the Privileged🪓
#92232: Nov 24th 2022 at 12:07:35 PM

In two seperate families in two seperate generations yeah.

Man the Engage outfits really are crazy. I guess after the (VERY RELATIVELY) down to earth Fodlan uniforms the character designers where feeling pent up.

Bleye knows Sabers.
TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#92233: Nov 24th 2022 at 12:23:00 PM

And then Heroes doesn't give us a Camilla with Bölverk, but then giving the axe to Xander.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#92234: Nov 24th 2022 at 12:27:08 PM

Is it me, or are Daggers/Shurikens really weak? For a weapon apparently meant to counter tomes, they don't do a whole lot of damage.

RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Team Rocket Boss.
#92235: Nov 24th 2022 at 12:28:37 PM

I am genuinely worried at how the ladies are going to be portrayed here in Engage.

Like IS has issues with writing women in power in particular.

Like Azura just renounces her claim to the throne for some reason, Mikoto dies, and the whole bit with all the women royals not having special weapons.

Even Three houses as lauded as it is for Edelgard and Rhea still portrays them as heavily flawed and needing men to help them lead like Hubert and Seteth, optionally Male Byleth, while Dimitri and Claude are portrayed as pretty much perfect in their endings and don’t need women to help them lead or the day to day affairs.

And the fact that the female dragon queen dies in a trailer shows how much IS wants to keep that a secret.tongue

Edited by RedHunter543 on Nov 24th 2022 at 3:29:40 PM

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
#92236: Nov 24th 2022 at 12:45:15 PM

[up][up]They don't counter tomes, they just have weapon advantage over them. The point of knives and shurikens isn't to deal damage anyway, it's mostly to lower the stats of an enemy so someone else can kill them easier.

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
Streamer
#92237: Nov 24th 2022 at 1:24:19 PM

Yes, they have low base Mt, which can be a bit tough to get over, but they can very much be carry weapons. Their most important attribute is being able to counter at 1~2-range without being inhibited (see: Hand Axes and their ilk costing you 5 defensive Attack Speed and not allowing you to ever double). From there, find ways to stack Str and +dmg abilities (Elbow Room, Strong Riposte, etc.). Forges also help immensely.

For an example of how potent this can be, during my last session, my Mechanist Corrin was one-rounding 50-HP Berserkers with an Iron Dagger +1.

FE: New Mystery Fresh Cart Lunatic 7PM PT Sun, Mon, Fri; Expert Unicorn Overlord 7PM PT Wed, Thurs: http://www.twitch.tv/kuroitsubasatenshi
Shad0wSmoke Since: Nov, 2013
#92238: Nov 24th 2022 at 1:31:56 PM

Shuriken are the best weapon type in the game lol. They're mainly meant for debuffing but can start slaughtering on their own once things start rolling. Now daggers/knives in Tellius on the other hand... https://www.reddit.com/r/shitpostemblem/comments/yva96y/unironic_knife_user/

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#92239: Nov 24th 2022 at 1:43:03 PM

Kaze in particular is pretty much a Mage Killer extraordinaire, especially in Conquest when there's not that many other shuriken/dagger uses.

Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
#92240: Nov 24th 2022 at 1:47:44 PM

Mind you, Kaze kills mages thanks to his ridiculously high resistance growth more than due to being a shuriken user. He could kill mages in any other class you put him into.

ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
Down with the Privileged🪓
#92241: Nov 24th 2022 at 1:48:48 PM

He can't not be a ninja though. That's illegal.

Bleye knows Sabers.
RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#92242: Nov 24th 2022 at 3:34:13 PM

So given that each of the two campaigns have their lines of weapons available at the store and not the other, it's a good idea to have Kaze stick to Shurikens in Conquest when I get him?

mariovsonic999 Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing. Since: Feb, 2012
Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing.
#92243: Nov 24th 2022 at 4:04:41 PM

[up]Iron and Steel Shuriken is more than enough for Kaze's offense. You could buy more knives like Hunter's Knife for specialization.

Edited by mariovsonic999 on Nov 24th 2022 at 4:04:49 AM

Fire Emblem Heroes Code: 4547311645 Fate/Grand Order Code: 188037115
MisterTambourineMan Unbeugsame Klinge from Under a tree Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
Unbeugsame Klinge
#92244: Nov 24th 2022 at 4:12:19 PM

Oh yeah, Tellius knives.

You could have one of your Sages take knives so that, when they fight armor units, they can run into melee range and attack them with a weapon that was effective against armor units... which had terrible base power and was being used by units with poor strength, so it was pretty much always worse than just hitting them with magic, which is what you're supposed to do to armor units anyway.

Nach jeder Ebbe kommt die Flut.
KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
Streamer
#92245: Nov 24th 2022 at 4:23:49 PM

WTA is pretty important when S-Rank weaponry is involved as well, and there are a rather lot of Sorcerers among the enemy magic ranks in Conquest. Master Ninja with S daggers versus a Sorcerer's S tomes causes the Sorcerer to lose a staggering 5 Atk. Niles, the team's other obvious Res tank, on the other hand, gives the enemy Sorcs +2 damage against him.

[up]x3 There are few shuriken available in Conquest, so Kaze's likely going to have to use daggers at some point. Bronze, in particular, because his poor Luck tends to give the enemy listed Crit.

[up] I think the intent was to make them better against other mages, but it's such a silly idea that I don't know how anyone thought putting up against staves as an option made sense. Knives would struggle to see use (because valuable inventory space) even if Sages got both staves and knives for promotion.

FE: New Mystery Fresh Cart Lunatic 7PM PT Sun, Mon, Fri; Expert Unicorn Overlord 7PM PT Wed, Thurs: http://www.twitch.tv/kuroitsubasatenshi
mariovsonic999 Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing. Since: Feb, 2012
Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing.
#92246: Nov 24th 2022 at 4:33:08 PM

@Red Hunter Because Azura is not a leader. She might be royalty, but she has as much leadership as a janitor.

Fire Emblem Heroes Code: 4547311645 Fate/Grand Order Code: 188037115
Shad0wSmoke Since: Nov, 2013
#92247: Nov 24th 2022 at 4:42:47 PM

[up] Now that you mention it, the two infamous decisions of invading Hoshido so Garon can sit on the throne in Conquest and attacking both Hoshido and Nohr's head generals in Chapter 6 of Revelation were both Azura's plans.

ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
Down with the Privileged🪓
#92248: Nov 24th 2022 at 5:00:18 PM

[up][up][up] Use against other mages? Ah yes the "During the spellcasting duel one of the students punched the other in the face fourteen times before any magic words could be said" strategy.

Bleye knows Sabers.
Cortez Since: May, 2009
#92249: Nov 24th 2022 at 5:04:30 PM

but it would explain a bit with the recruitable characters.

There have always been recruitable characters in Fire Emblem.

"They truly were a Aqua Teen Hunger Force"
RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Team Rocket Boss.
#92250: Nov 24th 2022 at 6:07:51 PM

[up] I mean a bit with how the two evil ladies from the trailer are recruitable.

I was thinking that a route split might explain why they might be on your team later on.

But honestly, I expect them to just defect from bad guy team for reasons.

They'll do a bunch of bad shit, then get forgiven because they were abused by evil older mage man.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Nov 24th 2022 at 9:08:01 AM

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.

Total posts: 98,281
Top