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OmegaRadiance Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Feb 11th 2019 at 12:52:14 PM

That plays a part in why he does his fit and leaves.

But I should add a Meritocracy values skill and tactical ingenuity as much as it does strength. I don't think I needed to mention that. It covers more than just brute strength, even if that is what Ashnard solely favors above all. Merit is all related to ones abilities in the fields one is good at. Daiens changes during that time allowed commoners to get positions they otherwise wouldn't because they were skilled enough to get thet high. Its why they mention how even Ashnard was better at ruling Daien than Begnion in Radiant Dawn.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Feb 11th 2019 at 12:52:53 PM

ILikeRobots Hinata Wearing a Sombrero from a halidom, whatever the heck that is Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Hinata Wearing a Sombrero
Feb 11th 2019 at 1:04:23 PM

[up] Ah, okay, I misunderstood what you were saying then.

Begnion's issues with ruling Daein had a lot to do with the fact that they really weren't interested in ruling fairly or doing what's best for Daein, but that they were just interested in total and absolute control and the ability to extort it however they pleased. Now that I think about it, out of all of the nations, Begnion pretty much gets the most unsympathetic portrayal, even though they're one of the most powerful countries on the continent. They're a bunch of slavers with a strict social hierarchy ruled by an oligarchy of extremely corrupt priests. Sanaki was fighting the good fight, but geez.

Ashnard's rule was still kinda bad for Daein as a whole though, with his whole warmongering conquerer thing turning everybody else on the continent against them, but was good for people like Petrine, who as a Branded, otherwise would never have been able to get a position. I really like how Radiant Dawn gave us one of those rare looks into one of the main antagonistic countries from the previous game and making it more sympathetic in some ways than even Crimea.

Also Pelleas and his arc were great and I wish he was more recognized and popular

Edited by ILikeRobots on Feb 11th 2019 at 1:05:12 AM

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Feb 11th 2019 at 1:09:47 PM

It's for that reason I'd really like a direct prequel to Awakening. Imagine, the noble king, wielder of the Falchion and the Fire Emblem, bearer of the Mark of Naga, descendent of Marth and of Sigurd, champion of the light and all that is pure, scourge of darkness... and he's a villain, while Plegia gets to look good.

Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
Feb 11th 2019 at 1:13:36 PM

Well it's not a bad location for a setting, but the problem is we already know that the war ends with both sides all but destroyed with no satisfying end. Don't know how well a game that ends on a bitter note like this would do.

ILikeRobots Hinata Wearing a Sombrero from a halidom, whatever the heck that is Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Hinata Wearing a Sombrero
Feb 11th 2019 at 1:17:08 PM

Would we finally get a Fire Emblem where we could actually play as the bad guy, rather than the halfhearted and confused attempt that we did get?

It's a bit difficult. Fire Emblem is very much about justice and friendship and light and such, so I don't know if they'd be willing to dip straight into the "Conquer all, reap the rewards, and don't care about the consequences" pool that is usually reserved for the series' villains. We were teased with that possibility...

But...they didn't follow through. You're ostensibly a good guy just doing a lot of dumb, violent, flimsily justified stuff.

Not that a bait and switch where you're the villain all along wouldn't be kinda cool, but I feel like they'd chicken out at the last second and put the protagonists on the good, non-ambiguous path. They kinda do it all the time when the Greater-Scope Villain is revealed, like with Radiant Dawn.

edit: Oh and just as an aside, the Exalt isn't descended from Sigurd at all. I don't know what happens to Jugdral after the Holy War and we don't revisit it except in brief references to Jugdrali sagas Chrom has heard about in the DLC, but there's no indication that Marth or anybody has blood from the Crusaders.

Edited by ILikeRobots on Feb 11th 2019 at 1:20:01 AM

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Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
Feb 11th 2019 at 1:20:28 PM

[up]And if you're playing Plegia, the majority of the game will pretty much have a message of "War is hell", which is kind of annoying to have in a strategy war game.

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dood9780 Fanatic Of Digital Monsters And Giant Robots from Chile, Temuco.
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Feb 11th 2019 at 2:53:27 PM

The "Do Not Do This Cool Thing"-problem is not something that can easily be dealt with as far as I know.

...Speaking of something else... On the topic of a hypothetical Elibe remake, with the use of avatars in later games... Does anyone think that Mark, the Tactician in The Blazing Sword that is pretty much a non-entity for most of the game. Might get a far bigger role and be playable in a hypothetical Elibe remake?

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Feb 11th 2019 at 2:55:09 PM

Mark will be able to marry Lyn and Hector at the same time.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything
Not really a lord of anything
Feb 11th 2019 at 2:58:07 PM

Yeah I fully expect them to be Robin 2.0, complete with an expxanded story role and ship tease with the lords.

If they don't do that, then they have incredible self-control.

Edited by LordVatek on Feb 11th 2019 at 5:58:49 AM

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MayIncon Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Feb 11th 2019 at 2:59:32 PM

Isn't "War is Hell" the theme for all FE games? That, and those damn humans are always the ones at fault.

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OmegaRadiance Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Feb 11th 2019 at 3:06:38 PM

Yes Humans Are the Real Monsters. The Narrator made that clear in Valentia.

Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
Feb 11th 2019 at 3:12:07 PM

[up][up]The theme might get close to war is hell, but it also follows a theme of honor and justice and fighting for what is right, and ultimately you will triumph against the forces of evil.

The pre-Awakening war is going to pretty much just be "War is hell, your fight is meaningless and when it ends, everyone hurts and no one is satisfied."

Feb 11th 2019 at 3:29:55 PM

Begnion's issues with ruling Daein had a lot to do with the fact that they really weren't interested in ruling fairly or doing what's best for Daein, but that they were just interested in total and absolute control and the ability to extort it however they pleased.

To be fair here, though, Sephiran did purposefully have the biggest dicks they could afford to send out of Begnion sent there in order to help set the stage for the eventual continent-wide war.

Pelleas kind of got shafted by the writers in general. He's just portrayed as this weak-willed person who gets used by everyone and then dies meaninglessly. On the first run, anyway. Of course that's the problem: lots of people don't play games more than once (and even the ones who do very likely won't see everything without a guide), so all over his biggest development is locked behind both a completed save and some pretty obscure on-map combat requirements. By the end, he's matured a lot, but... how many people are going to see that?

Edited by KuroiTsubasaTenshi on Feb 11th 2019 at 5:32:14 AM

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Feb 11th 2019 at 3:37:10 PM

Speaking of the Elibe remake, here's a bad idea I just had:

The Tactician is a more prominent character, and they're also a half-dragon like Ninian is. When Eliwood gets Durandal for the first time, the Tactician triggers the Durandal's dragonslaying powers, but Ninian's arrival at that moment means she gets hit with it as usual...unless you're playing Hector Mode.

In Hector Mode, the Tactician is the one that gets hit...by Armads.

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Feb 11th 2019 at 11:21:35 PM

[up][up]I actually appreciated how Pelleas' arc progressed, even in the first playthrough.

Yeah, he's weak. That's intentional, he's a weak person who relies on the support of others and is envious of Micaiah's charisma and the loyalty she inspires in others. Towards the end of the liberation war, he starts to grow a spine, delivering a rousing speech to the soldiers that actually does inspire them for the final push.

And then, when things look their darkest, he gives his life for the good of his people. Sure, that's quickly rendered moot, but the point is he went through with it without hesitation because he had finally found the strength to make the ultimate sacrifice.

there's no indication that Marth or anybody has blood from the Crusaders.

I didn't say Marth did, I said Chrom did. He's got that great big bloody Mark of Naga on his shoulder, and I'm pretty sure that means he has at least minor Naga blood, which means he has Sigurd somewhere in his family tree.

Would we finally get a Fire Emblem where we could actually play as the bad guy, rather than the halfhearted and confused attempt that we did get?

I know there's a mod called Good Guy Garon Edition, which rewrites the dialogue to make Garon the stern but fair king that Xander remembers, who over the course of the game is slowly corrupted by Anankos. It also makes Xander not a blind idiot, and apparently even gives Nohr some decent reasons for starting a war.

I'd like someone to go in the opposite direction, and make a mod in which Garon is as evil as in the base game, but everybody knows it and goes along because they're too cowed by his overwhelming presence and imperialistic propaganda. Corrin starts off trying to reform Nohr from the inside, but over the course of the game is forced to do acts of ever-greater evil, which he has to justify to himself as being done in the name of the greater good until the end, where he's taking part in massacres without a second thought because he "has no choice". And at the end, Xander takes the throne of Hoshido, because the country is in tatters and needs a strong leader to see it through.

Feb 11th 2019 at 11:37:21 PM

Another Tactician-related idea I had for a hypothetical Elibe remake: have the Tactician be a playable character in both Blazing Blade and Binding Blade. Their first appearance in Binding Blade would be on the run from Bern soldiers trying to forcibly conscript them into the Bern army, and Roy would have to rescue them.

The Tactician will have the same appearance in Binding Blade as they do in Blazing Blade, and the explanation is...they're half-dragon.

On a more serious note, I do hope that an Elibe remake does justice to the animations for Ereshkigal and Eckesachs. Those were some of the sickest weapon animations I've ever seen in the entire series.

OmegaRadiance Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Feb 11th 2019 at 11:39:23 PM

Anything threatening about Garon solely comes from the crazy Dragons blood.

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One Winged Egret
Feb 12th 2019 at 2:28:08 AM

I really don't want to see an evil storyline. Frankly that sounds boring. What I'd rather see is a situation where neither side can be seen as either purely evil or purely good, and it's not about just stopping the evil king of the evil empire. Which is what I'd hoped for from Fates, but then they decided to make Garon the evil king of the evil empire on both routes (yes, I know there are reasons for that, but that's just how they wrote it).

Radiant Dawn teased this a little by making both Daien and Crimea sympathetic countries with sympathetic leaders, but cheated by having Begnion (the stock evil empire in that game) forcing Daien's hand.

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Feb 12th 2019 at 3:52:59 AM

I'm not sure if it was posted, but Three Houses is up on the Switch eShop.

If we go on the precedent set by Yoshi's Crafted World, launch date announcement is soon, and the launch will likely be in May.

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MayIncon Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Feb 12th 2019 at 4:47:34 AM

Why is Daein and the like are easily forgiven in their sequels. But hey at least the POV lords' side are never in the wrong.

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RangerJackWalker Ranger Jack Walker
Ranger Jack Walker
Feb 12th 2019 at 5:50:24 AM

I didn't say Marth did, I said Chrom did. He's got that great big bloody Mark of Naga on his shoulder, and I'm pretty sure that means he has at least minor Naga blood, which means he has Sigurd somewhere in his family tree.

Chrom's holy blood is given a source: a new pact made by the First Exalt with Naga. It's outright stated that this why Chrom's family has holy blood.

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Feb 12th 2019 at 6:42:25 AM

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Feb 12th 2019 at 7:12:25 AM

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