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Lightblade Since: Jan, 2001
#60176: Aug 23rd 2016 at 1:40:40 PM

Yes, Garon and his retainers are clear cut villains. Though I have yet to play Conquest or Revelations (I'm not quite finished with Birthright, but I'm near the endgame), it feels like the choice isn't so much Hoshido or Nohr as much as "Dethrone Garon as La Résistance" or "Dethrone Garon as an Internal Reformist."

Anyway, I got that secret character from upgrading the puppet. He is indeed awesome.

Birthright Chapter 23: Camilla

(I'm going to start spoiler-tagging the chapter names since I'm approaching the endgame.)

This was a fun chapter. The catacombs were indeed maze-like, but that was actually helpful to me. This is also the chapter where I made the most use of pairing up out of any so far, at first so I could get everyone out of range of the boss's Dragon Vein fireballs. Once I got to the central area, I had Hinoka ferry my Avatar up to Arthur, to have Elise talk some sense into him. It worked, and both he and Effie became NPC units on our side. Then the very next turn, Arthur got taken out by a Fimbulvetr. "My one weakness!", indeed. From there I just went up to the bosses and beat some sense into them.

edited 23rd Aug '16 1:47:57 PM by Lightblade

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#60177: Aug 23rd 2016 at 3:35:43 PM

A problem people have had though is that they wait far too long to do the reforming and other things relating to it. I don't have too big of a problem with it personally as they do explain ingame why no one deals with crazy tyrant.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Darthwyn leader of Inherit from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
leader of Inherit
#60178: Aug 23rd 2016 at 3:42:09 PM

Well I could be wrong, but starting a revolution while already in the middle of a war probably isn't the best idea. If anything the problem is more Azura did things without having more people in the loop leading to the throne plan.

"Shall I use you, or make you mine... I'm not so sure what I'll do." - Dorthy
Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#60179: Aug 23rd 2016 at 3:51:39 PM

Thinking about it, the Internal Reformist story concept was kind of doomed from the start because of the existence of Anankos and Revelation.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#60180: Aug 23rd 2016 at 3:56:43 PM

Birthrights isn't better off either. They even made sure we understood that in Heirs of Fate with around twenty worlds doom by Anankos that chose those routes.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010
#60181: Aug 23rd 2016 at 4:07:13 PM

[up]Wait, I thought that was The same Anakos each time, from a revelations world where he won.

Side note: It's hilarious when Arthur wins at the arena as a ninja or master ninja. Shouting "Come strike a pose with me" while vanishing from sight is an amusing contradiction. Was also fun to have Saizo land one killing blow on the boss of chapter 10 (forget his name, it's the treacherous master ninja who was around this point in the revelations storyline)

edited 23rd Aug '16 4:13:31 PM by Ekimmak

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#60182: Aug 23rd 2016 at 4:09:59 PM

One Failed Revelations Anankos who conquers a bunch of Birthright/Conquest Worlds. Each time the Anankos of the world he conquers joins him. That's why the final battle is filled with Hearts.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#60183: Aug 23rd 2016 at 4:31:45 PM

So basically you're fighting an army of Anankoses? Dear God, imagine if they had all fused into one singular being; the children would have probably have had to deal with something much, much worse than even Grima.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#60184: Aug 23rd 2016 at 4:34:58 PM

Lost in the Waves lyrics and double Omega Yato are stronger.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#60185: Aug 23rd 2016 at 4:37:57 PM

You say that, but an amalgamate of 21 Anankoses fused together into some perfect dragon deity and/or an eldritch monstrosity would probably be too strong for even those to work.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#60186: Aug 23rd 2016 at 5:48:49 PM

It's not like the other Anankoses even do anything. They just float there like planetoids.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#60187: Aug 23rd 2016 at 5:52:23 PM

Probably cause of the song. The same verse that literally repairs destroyed worlds, weakens God Dragons, and brings back the dead written by the God Dragon. Though considering how much of a dick Anankos can be even to himself he's probably just keeping them around as trophies.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#60188: Aug 23rd 2016 at 5:52:51 PM

This has made me imagine a "complete" or "perfect" version of Anankos, since the form of him we see looks so rugged and withered, especially with his torn wings and lack of antlers.

MightyG 89 years old!? from TG University Hospital Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
89 years old!?
#60189: Aug 23rd 2016 at 7:31:38 PM

The thought of all those Anankoses doing a Fusion Dance though.

Umm... so, personally... this is the first time this has happened, so I'm a bit surprised. Only a centimetre away...
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#60190: Aug 23rd 2016 at 8:27:23 PM

Or Anankos Prime just consuming all those hearts to make himself even stronger; he'll become Super Perfect Ce-I mean Anankos.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#60191: Aug 23rd 2016 at 8:30:39 PM

Finishing my latest Revelations run, Anankos died from a Spear delivered by Gunter.

Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010
#60192: Aug 24th 2016 at 12:21:33 AM

Well, I'm disappointed.

Made it all the way through the gruelling chapter 15, got some good level ups, Takumi promoted...

And then Rinkah died to countermagic. Freaking typical.

Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010
#60193: Aug 25th 2016 at 5:35:14 PM

Kind of a double post, but nobody has really commented in the past few days, and I want to talk about progress in grindless Birthright.

All of my main party has promoted. I'm trying to hook up Saizo and Felicia because I want her to get access to Shruikenfaire, and in the process, Saizo has gotten enough levels to promote, despite the fact that I hadn't used him since the master ninja boss goodness knows how long ago.

I really wish Camilla wouldn't spam fireball dragon veins, or that Elise's retainers would stop rushing the enemy after turning green. I don't think I get anything for it, but I managed to keep them both alive.

edit: The game did make up for it in the arena, where Kagero won two matches in a row because Silas Critical Dual-Striked each time (and she missed her first attack because enemy bow users).

edited 25th Aug '16 5:42:09 PM by Ekimmak

Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#60194: Aug 25th 2016 at 5:38:10 PM

I'm playing my first Hard Mode Conquest playthrough.

Those first 5 pre-decision chapters alone somehow already have me afraid.

edited 25th Aug '16 5:38:28 PM by Konkfan7

Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010
#60195: Aug 25th 2016 at 5:44:23 PM

Yeah... Hard Mode does not pull any punches. Makes it clear from the start that you're going to have to work for your victory.

Speaking of which, Chapter 24. This is just stupidly brutal. How are you supposed to deal with Great Knights swinging around all types silver weapons? That's roughly 40 damage with a guaranteed weapon triangle advantage. And on top of that, there's sorcerers with fire orbs ready to soften you up so a safe fight becomes an enemy kill.

edited 25th Aug '16 6:29:34 PM by Ekimmak

Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#60196: Aug 25th 2016 at 6:24:35 PM

I picked Hard to freshen the experience a bit, also to capture units with more interesting skillsets and/or better stats to work with.

And yes, still going on to the project of making a team of my Troper friends. My current playthrough is for Engie, and on his request, will be a low speed, high defense Ballistician who will eventually marry Beruka. (I intend to make him go through Knight and General first to net some extra defense and Pavise).

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#60197: Aug 25th 2016 at 6:31:15 PM

You can't go wrong with Beruka.

Kinda wish the Assassin class was still around, though. It'd make more sense for her than Wyvern Rider.

Ah, well. Maybe she can stick around for next game and get the Owain -> Odin treatment.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#60198: Aug 25th 2016 at 6:36:53 PM

I honestly think the characters in the "scramble"-esque DLC that got images of them in costume/yukata/kimono/etc. are going to get that treatment.

So we may have 2nd gen expies of Xander, Camilla, Leo, and Setsuna along with the return of older Dwyer, Midori, Ophelia, Nina, and Forrest as 1st gen units.

Which I wouldn't mind, honestly.

edited 25th Aug '16 6:37:08 PM by Konkfan7

strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#60199: Aug 25th 2016 at 6:46:16 PM

Given some of those were decided because the devs liked the characters, and not necessarily that they were fan favorites, I don't think that'd be the case for all of them.

Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010
#60200: Aug 25th 2016 at 6:48:27 PM

Does Camilla's character work when she's the younger one?

Also forgot to mention: I didn't realize Takumi and Leo were supposed to be the younger brothers. I mean, there's two throwaway lines that say that they're younger than Corrin, but for the most part, they look older.

Maybe it's just the posture that confuses me.


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