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Watashiwa Since: Dec, 2009
#60151: Aug 21st 2016 at 10:45:25 PM

The Fates children, since that's kinda what's happening in Heirs of Fate, and Setty.

edited 21st Aug '16 10:45:52 PM by Watashiwa

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#60152: Aug 21st 2016 at 11:19:53 PM

Watashiwa is right. Majin Tensei was SMT x FE. It even had permadeath (for demons) while having typical RPG elements like equipment that even the demons could wear, tons of time travel in the second, and a pseudo magic/race triangle.

Guns were also super effective against aerial demons too if I recall right.

edited 21st Aug '16 11:20:27 PM by OmegaRadiance

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Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010
#60153: Aug 21st 2016 at 11:47:27 PM

I want to spend more time playing Fates, but I'm not too keen on running Birthright or Conquest when I've already gotten a happy ending.

So, I'm considering running Lunatic mode for the first time ever. Does anybody have any tips for Lunatic Mode Revelations? (Don't think I'll use the grinding DLC or other people's castles)

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#60154: Aug 22nd 2016 at 10:47:20 AM

What you could do is play Birthright and Conquest and then do the story to Revelation when you play your Lunatic run so that you end it all with the happy ending again.

Regardless, Revelation's Lunatic is about two things: stat inflation and gimmicks. So work on a core team from the start because being over-leveled is going to be the only thing letting your 2-4 stronger units reliable survive combat against the enemies' early promoted units. Make sure you use Gunter too, as he's one of only two +Str/+Def pair partners early on and just about any unit who is good at leading wants those boosts (the other is Rinkah). The gimmicks you should already be familiar with from your previous playthroughs. Just be aware that the heavier stat inflation may make dealing with some of them trickier. Oh, and make sure you make use of special weapons. Guard Naginata and Dual weaponry is especially helpful here, where all enemies have max weapon ranks and many of the early ones are S-Rankers, so getting WTA will result in a huge damage reduction for what your units have to tank.

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#60155: Aug 22nd 2016 at 11:03:31 AM

[up][up]Lunatic is stupid and i don't recommend it unless you are a masochist

because it's stupid (even though I did it)

Also I highly recommend playing through both Birthright and Conquest. Birthright has a better story, Conquest has more interesting characters and way better gameplay, and both are much better balanced and actually have you get to know the characters rather than just throwing them all at you at once. Plus the story in Revelations will actually make a lick of sense.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#60156: Aug 22nd 2016 at 11:11:17 AM

I wouldn't say Birthright has a better story so much as a better handled one. It's the least offensive narrative of the 3 routes, but it's also the most boring and safe one.

However, I will say that its endgame emotional scenes work more effectively than the other routes.

edited 22nd Aug '16 11:13:59 AM by Karxrida

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#60157: Aug 22nd 2016 at 11:11:44 AM

Fair enough.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#60158: Aug 22nd 2016 at 11:16:33 AM

It's a pretty standard "progress through enemy territory and strike down their leader" plot with no real twists aside from some sibling drama, but it executes it okay for what it is. Rather boring, though, aside from Xander killing Elise lololol.

Revelation is basically the same thing in a different world, but instead of sibling drama it's parental drama and a murder mystery subplot.

Conquest is... different, to its credit, but is a total mess that winds up being worse than both.

I'm not a fan of any of Fates' stories. Call Awakening's plot generic if you must, but at least it executed it well, and had some interesting twists.

edited 22nd Aug '16 11:17:42 AM by Anomalocaris20

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Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010
#60159: Aug 22nd 2016 at 2:02:50 PM

You know, I thought that the Caltrop hidden weapon was a joke, because it was locked to 1 range, had poor attack power, and inflicted str/skl -2 on the user.

But it turns out the convoy doesn't show hidden weapon stat debuffs. It inflicts a whopping -8 def/res/spd on contact, and that's probably why the final boss has stat down immunity, rather than reduction.

Edit: I'm not a masochist, but I do normally play on highest available difficulties. And yet for some reason, I don't in strategy games, so I might as well try it.

I also don't like the idea of killing of almost half of my units to get clarity on the second half. I'm pretty sure that supports cover anything that I needed to know.

edited 22nd Aug '16 2:38:13 PM by Ekimmak

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#60160: Aug 22nd 2016 at 3:38:50 PM

High difficulty can be a challenge that requires you to play well, or a gimmick that requires you to play a specific way. The latter is something to avoid.

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#60161: Aug 22nd 2016 at 5:17:52 PM

Okay I am now convinced you literally get nothing but Sunrise Katanas from birthday drops.

Also happy birthday, Shiro.

Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010
#60162: Aug 22nd 2016 at 5:19:22 PM

Well, look on the bright side.

It means you can forge Sunrise Katanas to your hearts content (provided you aren't on Conquest).

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#60163: Aug 22nd 2016 at 5:59:40 PM

Conquest is... different, to its credit, but is a total mess that winds up being worse than both.
I'd really like if something like Conquest is attempted again with antagonists who aren't all the sorts of people who tie puppies into burlap sacks and toss them into a river for a cheap laugh.

I sure said that!
Alfric Sailing the Skies! from Crescent Isle Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#60165: Aug 22nd 2016 at 6:14:34 PM

Unrelated to the joke, but is there seriously art of Ryoma with puppies? 'Cause that sounds adorable and/or hilarious.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/lb_i.php?lb_id=13239183440B34964700 Alfric's Fire Emblem Liveblog Encyclopedia!
Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#60166: Aug 22nd 2016 at 6:15:38 PM

Yeah, but no idea where to find it.

Also, there's apparently art of Xander with a kitty.

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#60167: Aug 22nd 2016 at 6:25:35 PM

Where to find it?

go to the Fire Emblem Wiki and go on their pages

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#60169: Aug 22nd 2016 at 6:33:34 PM

"Xander and his cat with the ears that never quit." was the correct title.

I sure said that!
KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#60170: Aug 23rd 2016 at 1:07:40 AM

I also don't like the idea of killing of almost half of my units to get clarity on the second half. I'm pretty sure that supports cover anything that I needed to know.
Pretty sure it's much less than half (assuming you're counting the entire Revelation cast). It's probably closer to an eighth because the game doesn't seem to like actually killing most people when they're defeated.

High difficulty can be a challenge that requires you to play well, or a gimmick that requires you to play a specific way. The latter is something to avoid.
The more the player does of the former, the more the latter approaches bare minimum.

edited 23rd Aug '16 1:08:09 AM by KuroiTsubasaTenshi

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Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010
#60171: Aug 23rd 2016 at 1:17:05 AM

Alright, I'm going to tackle the other two fates stories.

I've been really apprehensive about it, because to me, it's like picking between two evil options when there's a good choice right there (I always go full good choices in any game with a morality system). And trying to resolve it with "I'll play it, but I won't enjoy it." completely counters the point of a video game in the first place.

I'm actually not sure why I changed my stance on it, just that I have.

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#60172: Aug 23rd 2016 at 6:54:27 AM

i mean

they're not really bad paths in the least (especially since, as kuroi mentioned, you're not actually killing all of the other cast)

it's taking sides in a conflict where neither is really wrong

Revelations just provides a (very convoluted) solution to managing to take neither side.

edited 23rd Aug '16 6:54:43 AM by EpicBleye

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Alfric Sailing the Skies! from Crescent Isle Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#60173: Aug 23rd 2016 at 7:27:03 AM

Well, Conquest is the less morally upright path but only because Garon is a poorly written character with other poorly written minions. The part regarding the siblings and family stuff is a far more even choice.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/lb_i.php?lb_id=13239183440B34964700 Alfric's Fire Emblem Liveblog Encyclopedia!
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#60174: Aug 23rd 2016 at 11:15:07 AM

From a meta standpoint, there is a very good reason Garon is not present in Chapter 6.

I sure said that!
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#60175: Aug 23rd 2016 at 11:18:11 AM

that reminds me

chapter 6 is stupid on Revelations

not because it's hard or a dumb level or whatever

but because the end of that chapter is so over-the-top and comical on how it plays out

because Corrin literally says "I'm not here to betray anyone!" and both families go "Oh no, Corrin has betrayed us and is now our enemy! we must retreat and deal with how hurt we are with Corrin's betrayal"

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae

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