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Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010
#59651: Aug 4th 2016 at 4:13:50 PM

Ok, here's something about fates that bugs me.

Why is it that only the male royals have legendary weapons? Well, them and F!Corrin, but that's one out of five, and a choose-your-own gender character, at that.

I suppose Elise and Sakura start as staff-wielders so any legendary equipment they can use straight off would be limited durability staves, and you wouldn't want to use them, but why do the elder sisters not have personal weapons? (Side note, I'm always struggling to see Hinoka as older than Corrin, but maybe that's simply because I find it hard to compare her with Camilla)

Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#59652: Aug 4th 2016 at 4:15:50 PM

Funny, I was just thinking about that today.

Idk, maybe they didn't want to over-inflate the cast with exclusive weapons that kick major ass? The royals sisters are all decently good anyway (Especially Camilla).

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#59653: Aug 4th 2016 at 4:19:34 PM

Not entirely sure, but I'm thinking that because they have better availability, they're not given anything too crazy (granted, this doesn't stop Camilla from steamrolling anything she looks at for a good while).

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#59654: Aug 4th 2016 at 4:20:52 PM

Just make some legendary weapons of your own for the girls. It's a poor substitute, but they're good enough units that it doesn't really matter.

And Hinoka, at the very least, has Spear Fighter as her alt class, so she can use the Waterwheel if you Heart Seal her. And Elise can use the Bifrost.

Unrelated: I realized I had some First Blood hanging around in my inventory, so I used it on Silas and Niles so they can keep up with their spouses.

edited 4th Aug '16 4:22:16 PM by asterism

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#59655: Aug 4th 2016 at 4:21:26 PM

Because the weapons chose them, Hana never existed in the original drafts, and Sakura was a nobody.

Elise does want a legendary weapon as well but her brothers were chosen before she joined the battlefield while Camilla likely wouldn't have wanted the responsibility. Just like she doesn't want to be queen on Birthright.

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#59656: Aug 4th 2016 at 4:42:02 PM

[up]You mean Hinoka right?

And the Hoshidan older sister did exist in the original drafts, it's just she was Kagero instead of Hinoka.

edited 4th Aug '16 4:42:21 PM by BlackSunNocturne

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#59657: Aug 4th 2016 at 4:44:07 PM

Huh I recall there not being one. Also yes that Hinoka is the one I was talking about.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#59658: Aug 4th 2016 at 4:48:18 PM

Which is a shame, because Hinoka is rad.

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#59659: Aug 4th 2016 at 4:48:30 PM

Oh, before I forget to mention, we're apparently getting an official figma and Nendoroid of female Corrin as well as an official figure of best waifu Camilla.

-fanboy squee-

edited 4th Aug '16 4:49:14 PM by Konkfan7

Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010
#59660: Aug 4th 2016 at 4:54:38 PM

I think I actually already did that.

I forged myself an Iron Shruiken and named it Diamond Dust (I thought that you had to name any weapons you forge), and during Hinoka's exploration of the ninja class, she got to use it.

I also had a thought of a rather destructive skill combo. If you married Kaden or Keaton to either a ninja that an A+ with a wyvern rider, or vice versa, the resulting child could get Poison Strike, Savage Blow, and Grisly Wound. That's a minimum of 30% damage on enemies that resist % skills, normally 60%.

Sadly not an option this playthrough. But I'm in the process of preparing for Keaton's child to be a magic tank of epic proportions, so it balances out.

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#59661: Aug 4th 2016 at 5:03:44 PM

It also kind of bugged me at first that the older sisters didn't have named weapons, but I got over it, mainly because the sisters are good even without special weapons (especially Camilla; every game I played with her as a playable character, she ended up as a monster in battle).

How much do you want to bet that if Camilla had a named weapon, she would've named it after the Avatar?

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#59662: Aug 4th 2016 at 5:08:18 PM

My issues with the legendary weapons are

  • Too many of the weapons are swords when Xander's could have been a Spear to mix things up
  • It makes their children kinda pointless considering they're range 2 weapons with high Str and their kids can't equip them

It would've been cool if their kids could equip their parents' weapons after they reach A rank in their supports or something.

I also think they placed too much emphasis on the royals, essentially dictating a good chunk of your team.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#59663: Aug 4th 2016 at 5:10:46 PM

The kids get them in Heirs of Fate. They only have one user at a time as Sumeragi once wielded Rajinto.

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#59664: Aug 4th 2016 at 5:11:48 PM

Yeah, it would be great if they could equip their parents' weapons.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#59665: Aug 4th 2016 at 5:12:28 PM

I also had a thought of a rather destructive skill combo. If you married Kaden or Keaton to either a ninja that an A+ with a wyvern rider, or vice versa, the resulting child could get Poison Strike, Savage Blow, and Grisly Wound. That's a minimum of 30% damage on enemies that resist % skills, normally 60%.
Sadly not doable. There're only three potential mothers for those classes - Camilla, Beruka and Kagero, and they can't support with each other.

I guess you could do it with Corrin's help, but that seems like an awful amount of work for one gimmick.

Actually, it might be possible with secondary classes, but uuuuuuugh research.

edited 4th Aug '16 5:14:33 PM by asterism

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#59666: Aug 4th 2016 at 5:25:32 PM

60% is massively ridiculous overkill, anyhow. My Birthright Corrin had Savage Blow, Poison Strike and Replicate. The direct-damage poison was more or less wasted because he one-rounded stuff, anyway. The double AoE from Savage Blow was a little more useful, but eh.

Also, the Guard Naginata's ridiculous +Def boost is strong enough when Hinoka shows up that it might as well be a legendary. tongue

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#59667: Aug 4th 2016 at 5:43:29 PM

If I had to guess, the ladies don't get legendary weapons because they were already planning Heirs of Fate and wanted the royal children to wield the four legendary weapons.

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#59668: Aug 4th 2016 at 6:19:23 PM

Four Legendary Weapons sounds cooler and less crowded than Eight legendary weapons.

Also, Yato powerups are another thing to consider.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#59669: Aug 4th 2016 at 6:33:10 PM

We're all spoiled after having twelve weapons in Jugdral... Even if three were swords and four were tomes.

edited 4th Aug '16 6:33:28 PM by Pulse

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#59670: Aug 4th 2016 at 6:41:51 PM

Speaking of Legendary Weapons, What you're all's favorites? Feel free to include examples from all throughout the franchise.

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#59672: Aug 4th 2016 at 6:58:35 PM

Raijinto. Its a lightning katana!

Umm... so, personally... this is the first time this has happened, so I'm a bit surprised. Only a centimetre away...
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#59673: Aug 4th 2016 at 7:02:36 PM

I really like the oddball no-middle design given to Tyrfing in Awakening.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#59674: Aug 4th 2016 at 7:03:05 PM

Why the eff did Hector put the Armads back? He could've wasted Brunnya and Narcian with that thing!

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#59675: Aug 4th 2016 at 7:03:55 PM

Depends on the weapon. Like the best bow is the Fujin Yumi. Best tome is Forseti. And so on.

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