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PumpkinLore I spy with my little eye from YOU STALKER! Since: Aug, 2009
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#1: Oct 28th 2010 at 10:21:11 PM

Should Villain Who Doesn't Do Anything be renamed? Thing is, many of the villains does stuff, they just don't have any bearing on the plot. Using an example from the page, Oogie Boogie doesn't have anything to do with the "taking-over-Christmas" plot, but he does create tension by threatening to cook Santa for a snake-and-spider stew, making the need for Jack to realize his mistake much more urgent.

Someone on the discussion page suggested Villainous Plot Tumor as a sort of counterpart to Romantic Plot Tumor, and I think that would be a more fitting name. Anyone else thinks so?

edited 28th Oct '10 10:24:00 PM by PumpkinLore

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#2: Oct 28th 2010 at 11:52:53 PM

My problem with the trope is deeper. What is the trope about? A villain that does nothing, then, is not a villain. Heck, look at the examples, most of the listed character do something. Alot of the examples seem to be about villains that have no reasons to be evil.

Seriously wondering how much of a trope there is here at all.

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#3: Oct 29th 2010 at 12:09:17 AM

A villain that's uninvolved with the main plot of the story I would think. Like a side villain who just intersects with the main plot for a bit then continues off on his own or is defeated just cause he is in the way.

Midboss from Disgaea is a great example. (unless you dig in the All There in the Manual).

Filler Villain would probably be a good name for this. (EDIT: NVM)

edited 29th Oct '10 12:13:07 AM by Raso

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#4: Oct 29th 2010 at 12:13:23 AM

Then this should be redefined and renamed to something like Side Antagonist or Minor Antagonist

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#5: Oct 29th 2010 at 1:31:40 AM

When I read this title I was nearly sure that Orcus on His Throne had been renamed.

This may need a more distinctive title.

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#6: Oct 29th 2010 at 4:19:47 AM

[up][up] I think that's what this trope is intended to be although a Primary Villain isn't required.

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#7: Oct 29th 2010 at 4:34:28 AM

Supplementary Villain?

What's precedent ever done for us?
Tyoria Since: Jul, 2009
#8: Oct 29th 2010 at 5:23:06 AM

To go by the Gary example they don't even need to be villains so much as antagonists/rivals. Extraneous antagonists.

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#9: Oct 29th 2010 at 10:06:57 AM

Going by the example, probably better to use the word antagonist than villains, as alot of them are not really villainous or evil, they just impede the hero (hence, antagonist)

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#10: Jan 12th 2011 at 11:04:09 AM

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