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fruitstripegum Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Singularity
#451: May 7th 2011 at 12:12:27 PM

Thank you, I feel less insulted now.

And in answer to his question, I'm not high - I just thought it was a good idea.

edited 7th May '11 12:14:17 PM by fruitstripegum

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#452: May 7th 2011 at 12:18:18 PM

Protip: When someone goes "are you high?" they are not, in fact, asking if you are high.

FurikoMaru Reverse the Curse from The Arrogant Wasteland Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
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#453: May 7th 2011 at 12:27:31 PM

._. Dude, maintain.

(Also, *indicates breasts*.)

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fruitstripegum Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Singularity
#454: May 7th 2011 at 12:41:01 PM

[up]Just what do you mean by "maintain"?

And can we PLEASE drop the subject and get back to the topic at hand?

edited 7th May '11 12:41:55 PM by fruitstripegum

FurikoMaru Reverse the Curse from The Arrogant Wasteland Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
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#455: May 7th 2011 at 1:10:56 PM

Maintain your calm, maintain your self-control; it's slang. Not much in use since the '80s.

It's just a conversation about teenagers in frilly dresses with inappropriately-short skirts. No need to get angry when people laugh at you for not knowing as much about it.


Here's a thought; what about a mahou shoujo who gets called in as a replacement because the current holder of the title has been off at magical tournaments for the past year? It's something that bugs me about the traditional shounen Tournament Arcs and it could be a nice way to parody boys' magazines attempts to get female readers interested by bishifying everyone and tossing in token girl characters.

Also, I wonder if there's ever been a magical girl with the Power of Rock? Most of the Magical Idol shows seem to be about singing first and foremost; it'd be pretty fuckin' bitchin' to have the gal's staff morph into a Fender, or someone else's twin amulets become drumsticks.

edited 7th May '11 1:11:32 PM by FurikoMaru

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#457: May 8th 2011 at 10:04:36 PM

I had always wondered what would happen if less than 'noble' heroines had powers? Madoka didn't dive into the magical queeniliness test.

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#458: May 8th 2011 at 10:20:24 PM

What, like a shifty pickpocket orphan becoming a Magical Girl who's supposed to be a Warrior of Justice? It'd be funny to see her arguing with her familiar when it catches her lifting wallets and pinching fruit from the market.

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#460: May 8th 2011 at 10:24:22 PM

I've always wanted to see the Libby get stuck with the Power of Friendship.

>_< "Why should I bother to help her? She's a freak!"

The character development writes itself.

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#461: May 8th 2011 at 10:28:11 PM

Hey now, you're supposed to be a Warrior Justice! Now put that apple back!

"Can it, a Warrior of Justice needs her food too."

Why not get a proper job, then?

"Hmph... You try getting this orphan a job or something."

Go to Social Services then!

"No thanks, I'm not going to suffer the almost-certainly-worse fate of mouldering away in a crappy orphanage, or ending up geting adopted by a creepy man."

I didn't make you into a Warrior of Justice so you could abuse your powers to steal food, you know. You could always use your powers to help get yourself a job.

[up] Bwahahahahahaaaa, that'd be awesome.

edited 8th May '11 10:29:46 PM by AceOfScarabs

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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#462: May 8th 2011 at 10:43:46 PM

So what does everyone think of the Madoka finale here? Is it a Reconstruction or does it make the world different without changing the underlying themes.

The fact that the main character's fates are much the same indicates the latter to me. Sayaka. got a better death sure, but she's still just as dead.

A thing I've been thinking about Madoka is that the Jumped at the Call element is the element that it was decontructing most heavily. Contracting and joining into the magical girl system wasn't the sick part. It was that absolutely NO ONE was given the full info into what the system was like. The way everything was finally fixed was that Madoka knew all the consequences her actions would lead to, but she still decided it was worth it. Only in this show were the magical girls ever given a choice on this issue which means that as harsh as reality may be, it's still not all terrible.

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#463: May 8th 2011 at 11:31:19 PM

On the subject of "deconstructions" be careful, if you're going to realistically portray the life a magical girl would have, do that. But don't turn it into a contest wherein you try to make your grimdark penis bigger than everyone else's. We don't need more of that.

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#464: May 8th 2011 at 11:32:51 PM

But what if I have a surprise happy ending that works?

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SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#465: May 8th 2011 at 11:36:59 PM

Then it's not you trying to make your grimdark penis bigger.

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#466: May 8th 2011 at 11:39:51 PM

But what if it was as well as an attempt to troll my audience? I mean I could want the biggest ANGST COCK and the biggest HAHAHA I TROLL U COCK at the same time...

And get both. WITH PROPER PLANNING.

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#467: May 8th 2011 at 11:42:30 PM

But an actual happy ending would override any angst.

If it doesn't do that, then it's not a happy ending. It's a Bittersweet Ending or something like that.

Thus, you can have one or the other, but not both.

Unless you make two different shows, but that'd be a waste of time and effort.

Also, I wonder if there's ever been a magical girl with the Power Of Rock? Most of the Magical Idol shows seem to be about singing first and foremost; it'd be pretty fuckin' bitchin' to have the gal's staff morph into a Fender, or someone else's twin amulets become drumsticks.

I don't remember the name off the top of my head, but there's some chick with a unicode star and the word "Rock" in her series' name that I think fits the bill. But I might be remembering the show's description wrong, as I never actually watched it.

As for Reconstructions, I've wanted to make one for a while now, and in fact, I made an imaginary trope page for it as a thought exercise not long ago. Let me dig it up, hold on.

edited 8th May '11 11:45:52 PM by SpainSun

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#468: May 8th 2011 at 11:45:45 PM

But I am getting both. It's just that my ANGST COCK doesn't last all the way till the end. The ANGST COCK is transient, but I will damn well make it the biggest ANGST COCK.

Before trolling you with the happy ending.

And then releasing a sequel that crushes your dreams but actually turns out to be an interquel that is really a prequel.

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#469: May 8th 2011 at 11:46:51 PM

But the trollcock invalidates the angstcock.

WITH SPARKLY MAGIC.

I spread my wings and I learn how to fly....
SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#470: May 8th 2011 at 11:48:05 PM

Imaginary trope page wheee

most of that is just flavor, though (the stuff about Omansky, and the Take That! entry, for instance) rather than things I'd actually put in the show could I make it (which I can't, and Magical Girl does not work in text, I don't care what anyone says).

I spread my wings and I learn how to fly....
Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#471: May 8th 2011 at 11:48:53 PM

No it does not invalidate it! The ANGST COCK just dies and a brand new TROLL COCK is born.

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#473: May 8th 2011 at 11:52:26 PM

NO IT DOESN'T.

If I die and I am reborn as an orangutan my life has not been invalidated! Cocks are like orangutans!

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
Laugh it off, everybody
#474: May 8th 2011 at 11:53:30 PM

YOU FOOL! ORANGUTANGS ARE THE COCKS OF THE ANIMAL KINGDOM!

I spread my wings and I learn how to fly....
Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#475: May 8th 2011 at 11:54:05 PM

?! WHAAAAT?! BUT I THOUGHT SNAKES WERE!!

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah

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