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joerc45 from Fortress of Solitude Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#1: Dec 15th 2010 at 11:54:27 AM

Hello, tropers! I was viewing this article and was a bit confused with the current image. It's just Sonic and Tails sitting on {platforms?} The caption does a good job of explaining the image, but the image should be illustrative of the trope on its own.

edited 15th Dec '10 11:54:53 AM by joerc45

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#2: Dec 15th 2010 at 12:01:30 PM

The current image is fanart of Sonic and Tails stuck on the "Barrel of Doom" section of Carnival Night Zone, Act 2.

... yeah, it should be replaced, maybe moved to an Image Links Wiki page. While a good example in itself, the image doesn't really work without context.

edited 15th Dec '10 12:02:08 PM by Komodin

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#3: Dec 15th 2010 at 1:14:53 PM

I love the current image, but only for very personal reasons (when Sonic 3 first came out, I could never figure out how to advance past Carnival Zone).

Objectively speaking, yeah, people not that familiar with the game (or the level) would never be able to understand the picture, though that's a shame.

edited 15th Dec '10 1:15:42 PM by SeanMurrayI

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#4: Dec 15th 2010 at 1:16:27 PM

Image pulled.

Previous:

"Use the D-pad" ... Wait- that moves these things?

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#5: Dec 15th 2010 at 1:17:08 PM

Pulled image:

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#6: Dec 15th 2010 at 1:21:48 PM

"...people not that familiar with the game (or the level) would never be able to understand the picture..."

Mm, I dunno, I am not at all familiar with the game (or the level) and I kinda got it. Sonic is stuck on a puzzle, Tails is off IMing or something. The player is ostensibly doing something... else. Not great, though.

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#7: Dec 15th 2010 at 2:29:50 PM

I'm pretty sure that it is highly difficult to make a picture for this sort of thing. There needs to be a solid option that all (or at least most) of us are aware of that was nearly impossible to find out without the guide.

However, I think that it won't work so easily as one may hope. We'll need a recognizable game and something that was considered impossible to find out without the guide, that clearly shows why it was impossible.

If we are going to have to use a picture, I presume we could try something like Ocarina of Time's Water Temple. Easily recognizable, clearly annoying to many players, and it shouldn't be too hard to find a certain spot that we all had trouble with (perhaps the infamous raising and lowering the water level?)

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#8: Dec 15th 2010 at 2:49:21 PM

Not everyone has played Oo T, not everyone is going to remember what it looks like, what happened in it, or even thought it was that hard if they did.

The image needs to show an audience reaction to be clear. Someone who can't figure out something without looking it up first.

suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
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#9: Dec 15th 2010 at 3:25:30 PM

I agree with rodney Anonymous. I have no knowledge of the game, but the context is fairly clear: The game characters are waiting around for the player to consult a guide and figure out what to do next. Perhaps another caption could help with that, but it's an OK image, I think. Not a great one, but serviceable unless anyone has something better. But as noted, it's a tough one to depict.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#10: Dec 15th 2010 at 3:35:25 PM

"Sonic and Tails twiddle their thumbs while the player finds a guide on how to solve the barrels puzzle", or something.

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MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#11: Dec 15th 2010 at 4:26:20 PM

Caption:...and two years later, GAME Faqs was started and millions of gamers all over the world slapped their foreheads.

Caption: Don't worry, Sonic and Tails will make themselves comfortable while you check GAME Faqs.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#12: Dec 15th 2010 at 4:29:56 PM

It's GameFAQs. One word. Different capitalization.

edited 15th Dec '10 4:30:29 PM by shimaspawn

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#15: Dec 18th 2010 at 5:02:20 PM

I was able to understand quite well that gamers had problems moving the barrels. The caption helped so much.

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#16: Jan 3rd 2011 at 5:10:45 PM

i am kind of new at this site (at least posting in it) but i guess that a good choise is the zodiac spear of Final Fantasy 12, there are no hints in the game, and getting it is basically imposible if you dont know what are you doing

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#17: Jan 3rd 2011 at 5:17:27 PM

I would say we should use something that is hidden so well that its impossible to find and it looks it... I would say the Konami Code or something like it but thats a different trope.

or something with a code system.

edited 3rd Jan '11 5:19:08 PM by Raso

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#18: Jan 3rd 2011 at 5:17:32 PM

Being an example doesn't make it a good image, the picture needs to show the trope.

(We've got to launch How To Pick A Good Image)

edited 3rd Jan '11 5:17:45 PM by Deboss

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#19: Jan 4th 2011 at 12:09:21 AM

I think the current image is fine. I've never played the game in question, but I understood it easily enough.

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#20: Jan 5th 2011 at 10:18:17 AM

I, too, have never played the game. While I couldn't tell what the puzzle was, it seems clear that the image is a puzzle that the player is stuck on.

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IanExMachina The Paedofinder General from Gone with the Chickens Since: Jul, 2009
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#21: Jan 5th 2011 at 5:01:31 PM

Why not have an image of a guidebook?

Or even a photo-shopped guidebook with something similar to the carnival night scene on the cover?

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#22: Jan 5th 2011 at 6:13:39 PM

I've never played the game and the page image makes sense. The characters are sitting around waiting for the player to figure out what he's supposed to do.

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#23: Jan 5th 2011 at 7:02:54 PM

I never played the game too and I could guess what it means. But then I had played games that require guides too.

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#24: Jan 5th 2011 at 8:09:51 PM

Hmm, seems a lot of people like the image, not even knowing the game it comes from.

If we want to make it offical, we could put it to a crowner, but it seems concensus is to leave the image.

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#25: Jan 5th 2011 at 8:20:31 PM

I am not a sonic fan and I got the idea too.

edited 5th Jan '11 8:20:39 PM by FallenLegend

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