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Moroaica Since: Aug, 2017
#1976: Aug 10th 2019 at 3:40:25 PM

There's no way in hell those two idiots will get anywhere close to the nomination lol.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#1977: Aug 10th 2019 at 3:44:02 PM

Well, one way they could make it into South Park is if they do something with there being an overwhelming amount of candidates, and maybe exaggerating that, so that there are dozens or hundreds of random liberal candidates roaming the streets. Maybe take that World War D gag from Trevor Noah to it's logical conclusion, and have something of a Democratic candidate zombie apocalypse.

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#1978: Aug 10th 2019 at 5:03:54 PM

@ Kayeka: I still think he deserved to win over Turd Sandwich. Douches actually have practical use, turd sandwiches ruin a perfectly good sandwich. That said, I voted for a third party in Enema Man

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#1979: Aug 10th 2019 at 6:35:25 PM

Enema Man sucks. Buffulo Dump is better because she care about the environment and is actually part of the more practical party.

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#1981: Sep 12th 2019 at 10:03:57 AM

That leaves the question of how much demand there is.

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#1982: Sep 12th 2019 at 11:22:07 AM

[up] Well the Seasons get at least ~1 Million Views on Prime Time, so at least ~1 Million people are demanding it.

Here's hoping we get a Season that Rivals 19.

Edited by DingoWalley1 on Sep 12th 2019 at 2:22:20 PM

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#1984: Sep 25th 2019 at 7:03:48 PM

And it begins with Randy singing a Tegridy Farms version of the OP

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#1985: Sep 25th 2019 at 8:10:34 PM

The Joker bit was on point given the insane hysteria following the release of a film whose apparently biggest crime is aping Martin Scorsese films a bit too much.

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#1986: Sep 26th 2019 at 12:01:48 AM

Regarding the whole Mexican Joker identity thing, is it a bit more racist to think the guy would be a coked up druglord instead of just the Joker in a sombrero and a mustache as that police sketch indicate . . . or just Cesear Romero who is literally Mexican Joker (and apparently the original Joker, which kind of means that maybe we should call all the other Jokers, Caucasian Joker . . . with The Batman Joker being the only African Joker).

Man this episode title made me go off tangent. I should focus on the actual plot.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#1987: Sep 26th 2019 at 3:13:13 AM

Yes, that would definitely be more racist, because then you are equating Mexicans with drug dealers.

So I understand there's a new episode upcoming?

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#1988: Sep 26th 2019 at 6:28:20 AM

Edit: Delete. Got a little confused

Edited by Zarius on Sep 26th 2019 at 6:30:10 AM

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#1989: Sep 26th 2019 at 11:20:22 AM

[up]x2 Hey, at least I didn’t say Cubans and blast the song “Push It To The Limit” . . . when will I ever learn that people on the internet can’t read between the lines of comment to distinguish an obvious joke. Especially on this site when I have to pothole Joking Mode or Sarcasm Mode to indicate I was being coy.

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#1990: Sep 26th 2019 at 1:54:34 PM

Well, I'm autistic, so it's not like it is easy for me to tell at times. grin

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#1991: Sep 30th 2019 at 3:56:54 PM

Mexican Joker

South Park is back, jay, I guess? I don't know, somehow I don't feel nearly as excited for this show as I was even a few years ago. Not that I won't watch, or like it, but it doesn't seem to hold the same excitement anymore. It's like watching season eleventy of that sitcom that never seems to end, and you've watched it since forever, and now you're more or less watching it because, well, that's what you do. It's what you've always done, so you keep on doing it, and you'll be damned if you give up on this part of your child/teenhood.

I am doing the same thing with my Donald Duck subscription. I'm literally almost a decade behind on reading... and it's a weekly magazine. I guess some habits die hard.

So, let's see what this never ending cartoon brings us this season, shall we?

It's a new theme song. Sung by Randy. Set on Tegridy farm. I wonder if this is going to stick. So, I take it this episode is going to be about the Marshes.

Wow, Randy has taken over the entire valley. He is now a bona fide weed baron.

And it's staffed with Mexicans. Of course it is.

Meanwhile, Cartman bemoans all the changes in South Park since Stan moved out of town (some meta commentary, perhaps?), and wonders how kids are supposed to have any hope with all these changes in the world. Randy checks in on Stan (who is now doing accounting for the farm, apparently), and discovers that sales are down from last month, and decides to push his product on his customers in person, you know, like those drug dealers you used to see in old PS As that were always badgering their customers to buy more drugs. grin

Of course, the reason Randy's sales are down are because people are growing their own weed in their gardens, which sure is cheaper than having to buy it, as many potheads out there will probably be all too glad to tell you.

Oh, and Steven has a Mexican gardener, too. Clearly, this is going to be a thing this episode. Of course, Randy is incensed that people would "copycat" his weed production, and vows vengeance on Steven.

Meanwhile, with Cartman... "Kids are being handed a world that's broken and sick. We aren't the ones who messed the planet up, but we're the ones who will pay the price." Seems like Cartman has joined the young liberals movement. I'd say he's up to something, but these days, you never know what's going on with Cartman.

And then ICE comes in and arrests Steven's gardener on suspicion of being here illegally. Welp, that didn't take long to turn political. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but there was a time when South Park was more about just having crazy fun, not constant political commentary. This show even mocked the idea of being "all preachy and up its own ass with messages"... and then went and became just that, anyway.

Of course Steven suspects Randy (I can already see the twist coming where Trump is the real culprit), and the family of the Mexican is sent to a detention centre. You know, kids in cages and all that.

Also, these guys are walking around with machine guns, which I'd hope is an exaggeration, but with the militarization of the US police and all, I can't even be sure of that anymore.

Of course Cartman loves the idea of being able to give anonymous tips and have families taken away to detention centres. And when Cartman says detention centres, you can bet he is thinking of concentration camps, little white supremacist shit that he is. I'm sure the show will draw the connection sooner or later.

And of course, the next scene is of the Brovlofskys being detained by ICE. That didn't take long to make the connection from Mexican deportations to Jewish deportations.

"I'm telling you, I just don't know where our passports are." Don't people keep those somewhere safe, like in a desk? Do Americans regularly lose their passports like this? In the EU, you have an ID card (national only, though, you still need a passport to travel outside the EU), which you can easily keep in your wallet, so this is not really relatable for me.

Meanwhile, Stan is using the liberal youth platform (basically, the way kids around the West are increasingly calling for liberal change) to rail against homegrown marijuana. Randy is acting for an entire crowd, since he and Towelie are the only ones in attendance. Even Stan isn't buying Randy's ridiculous talking points, though.

Randy is incensed that the town council won't do anything (surprise surprise), and disavows South Park altogether.

"I don't know if you want to say "fuck South Park." Is this meta, or something? I'm not entirely sure.

Meanwhile, at the prison camp detention centre, the Mexican kids, and Kyle, are greeted by an American ICE officer and an apparently very sarcastic translator, if I get his tone of voice right. When they do a name roll call, they are shocked to find that Kyle is Jewish, not Mexican. Of course, they want Kyle out of there, because it might make them look racist. I'd say the right term is antisemitic, but it counts, I guess.

Meanwhile, Randy is approached by some big weed tycoons about his lobbying to ban homegrown marijuana.

Ice is ready to let Kyle out, but Kyle points out that the Mexican kids are still stuck. It's basically the same thing pundits have been saying about the whole kids in cages scandal for over a year, now. For usually being on the razors edge of news, this is royally late for South Park. I'm not sure what they intend to add to the debate that hasn't been said a dozen times already. Yes, deporting Mexicans is bad, family separation is worse, and putting kids in cages is downright evil. Yes, America is going down a very dark path with it's detention camps for migrants. Unless they mention the "no toothpaste" thing, or draw comparisons to Japanese detention camps, I feel like this epiosde doesn't add all that much.

Kyle draws a comparison to superhero movies, and claims ICE is creating a Mexican Joker by traumatizing kids and teaching them to fear and hate America. I don't see how that comparison fits, though. The Joker doesn't have childhood trauma about being locked up, as far as I know, nor does he particularly hate America as such, I think. He is just an insane criminal. If they really wanted to make a point in this direction, they could have made this about not creating the next generation of America loathing terrorists, or something. That would be crass, sure, but at least it would make some amount of sense, and it's not like South Park is afraid of being crass.

Anyway, the ICE officers debate the threat, and decide that maybe Kyle is on the Mexican Joker's side.

Meanwhile, Randy is busy selling out by agreeing to a merger with a big weed company. I can already see where this is going: it turns into a hostile takeover, like his competitors wanted all along, Randy loses his farm and is forced back to South Park, where everyone will hate his guts.

Towelie is aghast by Randy selling out, stating that "weed isn't supposed to be some money grubbing business model, it's a gift from God, and not supposed to be exploited by some stupid towel". Commercialization bad, homegrown good, you get the gist.

Meanwhile, the ICE head guy, who I don't think has a name here, is doing a puppet show for the children with Mexican Joker, using it to indoctrinate the kids into forgiveness of how they are treated.

And Mexican Joker is also a rapist. Because of Trump's "Mexicans are rapists" bullshit, get it? Sigh. Did we really need that?

I mean, of course I care about all these issues, but thanks to Trump, I already hear of them on a regular basis from the news. And then I hear about it again from the comedy shows. Do we really need South Park to go over it again? Aren't we supposed to watch cartoons to get away from the news cycle and real life shit?

Another bus load of children comes in, including Cartman. Apparently he threatened Jimmy with being sent to a detention centre, Stan overheard, and sent HIM to one instead. That seems... uncharacteristically mean for Stan. Who knows anymore, though.

Meanwhile, Randy is obsessing over not being a towel, because... Towelie called him a towel? This is pretty nonsensical, even for South Park. Of course, Randy goes insane and imagines himself becoming a towel.

Meanwhile... Mexican kids getting electroshock treatment. Gee, thanks for THAT image, South Park. I guess it is supposed to invoke insane asylums, but goddamn, thats a fucked up joke.

So, yeah, ICE is tortur-, ahem, trying to cure Mexican Joker with electroshock therapy (even though that isn't really a thing anymore, not the way South Park depicts it), continuing the bizarre misunderstanding.

Meanwhile, Cartman has a revelation about why Kyle might be oversensitive about being sent to a camp (because he is a Jew, of course), so there's that Nazi concentration camp connection for those keeping score. Kyle ignores him, having a plan to escape, thoug he is clearly pissed at Cartman (no surprises there).

Meanwhile, Randy blows up some guy in his homegrown weed garden. Graphically. Well, that's our disgusting gore shot quota for this week, I guess. All we need now is a poop joke.

So, Randy is a weed terrorist now, committing actual murders against weed growers. Fantastic.

Of course, the streak of terrorism makes the news, who blame it on... Mexican Joker. Somehow. For no apparent reason. It's a damn clunky way to tie the A and B plots together, if you ask me.

And for some reason the news anchor is acting like he needs to go to the bathroom every time someone mentions Mexican Joker. Because funny? I guess? It's really not all that funny...

Then the general enters a flashback for Mexican Joker's backstory, which the ICE guys break the fourth wall about being in, and reveal Kyle's escape plan: converting the Mexican children to Judaism.

So I guess the gag is that the government wouldn't detain children if they were Jews? What kind of sense does that make? The migrant crisis isn't about religion, it's about nationality. Interestingly, converting to Judaism DOES give you a right to Israeli citizenship under the Law of Return. But even then, they would still be foreign immigrants. Converting to Judaism would not grant them American citizenship, as this episode seems to suggest.

Also, this gag relies heavily on antisemitism to work. It would not work if the kids got converted to, say, Catholicism (which they very likely WOULD be, anyway, since Mexico is a Christian country, as are all South American countries).

Anyway, the ICE guy shoots the guards to let Mexican Joker out, hoping to get on his good side, and Kyle berates him about not getting what he meant, which is that bad actions now might have bad consequences later through trauma, etc.

So, the guy figures he's in the wrong flashback, and runs off, leavint the kids to their fate, still locked up.

Meanwhile, Randy returns home and brags about sales being up again, daring Sharon to call him a towel. Which she does. Randy snaps back, and that's the episode.

Well, that was a bit dissapointing. The episode was too busy making a political statement to be very funny (though I had a couple chuckles), and it's political statement feels obvious and rather late to the party, not to mention rather superfluous to the whole debate. I didn't find the idea of Mexican Joker all that clever or funny, either, to be honest. It sounds like the punchline to a racist joke.

So, Kyle and Cartman are in immigrant jail now, which will probably be a main plot for the season. I woulnd't be surprised if they are going to do an Arkham Asylum bit about this whole thing soon. That does sound fun, at least if they can keep the political commentary down a bit.

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Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#1992: Sep 30th 2019 at 7:14:16 PM

If they are all Jewish they have to let them out, so they don't look like they are anti semitic.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#1993: Sep 30th 2019 at 9:19:25 PM

The idea is "All it takes is oe bad day" that some stories of the Joker involve people going crazy.

Dark Knight did it with Harvey Dent into Two-Face. Which was, of course, caused by Joker.

Or that same a Dark Multiverse Joker turned his Batman with Joker venom and made him into The Batman Who Laughs.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Sep 30th 2019 at 9:23:40 AM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#1994: Sep 30th 2019 at 10:39:06 PM

[up][up]Yeah, but that of course makes no sense, since it is just as racist to lock them up because they are Mexicans. That's the whole point.

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Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#1995: Oct 1st 2019 at 10:24:28 AM

[up]Yes but they are stupid, and don't see the hypocrisy.

Edited by Envyus on Oct 1st 2019 at 11:25:58 AM

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#1996: Oct 1st 2019 at 11:59:52 AM

And not seeing the hypocrisy is one of the ways South Parks picks on folks.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#1997: Oct 1st 2019 at 6:04:29 PM

[up]x6: In the US, there are two types of people who use their passports more than once every few years: the obscenely wealthy, and those who live next to the borders. The EU equivalent is people who regularly travel to different continents. Losing your passports is not unheard-of for Americans at all.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#1998: Oct 2nd 2019 at 3:41:00 AM

So what do Americans use when they need to identify themselves to the police?

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#1999: Oct 2nd 2019 at 3:57:48 AM

Drivers License, or just a general government issued ID card. Those can be easy enough to get even if you are in the country illegally (depending on state laws), some even find loopholes to own property.

The episode has a few laughs, but not a lot of story at the moment. I don't know if Stan and Cartman will be in the immigration center for the entire season, this feels a bit more like a two parter like Man Bear Pig Returns.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#2000: Oct 2nd 2019 at 4:03:18 AM

Well, it seems to set up Randy as a villain, perhaps to be mistaken for Mexican Joker.

Since this season seems to be leaning into the US immigrant crisis, I also expect an episode about Ike being put up for adoption and lost in the system, unable to communicate his identity to his adoptive parents (maybe make it a gag because he's Canadian or something). That will then lead to Kyle trying to relocate his brother, I assume.

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