Does Waltz With Bashir count? Sure it's a documentary but it's still animated and tackles some really heavy themes.
One word: yes. We need more animation that isn't just comedies for kids. Cinema needs to prove that they can make animation for more than just one audience and of more than just one genre.
I've been waiting for the day that someone greenlights a $150-200 million animated feature with an R rating in mind (we almost got it with Beowulf, of which Robert Zemeckis wanted to release with an NC-17 rating, but Paramount forced him to cut it down to a PG-13 before release).
More Buscemi at http://forum.reelsociety.com/I saw an animated movie called Felidae, about a cat detective who encounters some weird semi-religious sci-fi-ish cult in his hometown, and tries to solve the mystery of a bunch of murders. It was pretty R-rated alright. Violent bloody murder, the final scene where one cat rips out another cat's guts during a fight, and there's even cats in heat. In fact, the murders all involve cats who were in heat at the time.
On the other hand, it's not violence all over the place, sex all over the place, etc., but instead was handled pretty well in service to the plot. It was maturely restrained.
It was undeniably an adult animation, and a pretty well-told story. I'd like to see more stories like that be made, and prove that such animations can, in fact, exist, and hopefully bring some more respectability to animation.
edited 28th Oct '10 10:35:56 AM by BonsaiForest
Do you want R rated animation back for the cinemas?
No.
I would like animated movies that were aimed towards adults but really, rated R? Bleh
edited 28th Oct '10 12:27:30 PM by Bowyn
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.In regards to that video: The only problem I have is when people that pretty much all animated movies today, geared at kids are crap. Sturgeon's Law applies even nowadays and just because it's CGI or meant for kids doesn't mean it isn't going to be good. I can name some good CG animated films meant for families that have come out in recent years. Higher rating or more "Adult" =/= better movie.
Ahem, that being said: Yes, I do hate that all animation=for kids ghetto. In recent years I think films meant for a higher aged audience is very slowly breaking through. We've have stuff like Persepolis and Waltz With Bashir, though those are both foreign films. I wish people knew more about films getting produced that are not from a major studio like Sita Sings The Blues, which is a very good non-R rated movies for a little older of an audience that got screwed on its release. I think also people should be allowed more artistic freedom when making stuff as well instead of getting scared and making sure the films are for "family" audiences or, if for "adults" either based on a pre-existing television cartoon or straight to DVD. I find it weird that cartoons have gotten a reputation for being just for kids TBH. :/
edited 28th Oct '10 9:10:42 PM by Jumpingzombie
Basically, what I'd like to see is the rules for anime applying to western animation. You have kids anime, teen anime, and adult anime (which isn't the same as Hentai; there's plenty of adult-oriented anime that isn't porny). Why can't the west have similar options?
"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary GygaxYes, I want animation for adults. No I don't want R-Rated animation. Because R shouldn't exist. Why? because it,s flawed, like the rest of the system. A rating should not be based on the specific number of F-Bomb in it. It should be based on the entire theme/atmosphere of the movie. A very realistic movie about violence in the streets should get a higher rating than a Micheal Bay-like action movie about the same subject.
If you look a bit at international ratings, you'll see that MANY country rate films lower than their US rating. Best examples? Canada. It's close, the culture is similar (but NOT the same) and, weirdly, most R film are rated PG 13 (at least it's equivalent).
I dunno. Most cases of "R rated animations" seems to fall under the guise of "South Park The Movie" or those people trying to imitate it. Don't get me wrong, that was an awesome film but the only reason it worked was because South Park is like that in nature. People who try and rip off from it by using unnecessary swearing, sex jokes, and excessive violence fail and their movies are horrible.
If they are going to have an R rated animation, I'd want it to be R rated not just for needless "Foul Language and Adult Humor and Excessive Violence". Make it actually utilize mature themes sort of like a Pan's Labyrinth Animated version. That's what they have in every other part of the world (particularly Japan- Hell, we could even import more anime films) In that sense then, I'd fully welcome the return of such of these films.
edited 29th Oct '10 10:16:10 AM by Mattonymy
You are displaying abnormally high compulsions to over-analyze works of fiction and media. Diagnosis: TV Tropes Addiction.If I had my druthers, I'd replace the MPAA ratings with a set of factors, like violence, sex, drugs, fear, etc. Then each movie would be rated on a scale of 0-5 on each factor, and have a set of symbols to identify how much of that factor is present. As long as the values are objectively set ("A 'Sex' value of 2 indicates passionate kissing or hugging appears, but there is no nudity or intercourse"), it'd be a superior alternative to just saying "PG-13" or whatever.
—R.J.
That's more or less what we have here in the province of Quebec, Canada. We have G PG PG-13 16+ (equivalent of R) and 18+ (mainly for porn, but the occasional Hostel gets it too.) and then we have a slew of reasons - Violence, Horror, Eroticism,Language (there might be other, but those are the more common.) So a PG-13 Violence might be something like 300, while a 16+ Violence is gonna be Seven and 18+ Violence is gonna be Hostel. Same thing for Eroticism Daredevil would have a PG-13 eroticism because of the sex scene while the remake of The Postman Always Ring Twice would have a 16+ eroticism
One of the thing we do too is we re-rate movies over time to account for social evolution. I don,t think the MPAA does that. Example: Total Recall was originally 16+ , a few years ago it was brought down to PG-13.
Of course, here the rating system is a law, meaning that I can't sell a ticket or a DVD for a R rated movie to a Teen unless I wanna get fined pretty heavily.

I finished watching a video that discusses of Adult cartoons
. And I have noticed that there isnt even a slightest bit of animation for adults for the cinemas. Now would you like to see some R rated animation to return to the cinemas? I would as long as the story is good, interesting characters, and doesnt have any pop-culture jokes.