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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#251: May 14th 2010 at 12:00:41 PM

This looks like a Torg who became driven to the point of losing most of his compassion. Seems like a shell of a Torg more than a Torg himself.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#252: May 18th 2010 at 3:24:53 AM

Tuesday's strip.

A thin ray of hope is starting to blossom within my heart.

SomeNewGuy Since: Jun, 2009
#253: May 18th 2010 at 11:44:18 AM

There is only one obvious conclusion.

ZOE HAS BECOME A ZOMBIE-*shot*

Geostomp In the name of the POWER, I will punish you! from Arkansas, USA Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
In the name of the POWER, I will punish you!
#254: May 19th 2010 at 7:12:31 AM

I told you Zoe wouldn't die that easily.

"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" Futurama, Godfellas
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#255: May 27th 2010 at 3:16:19 AM

At first I was like "Awesome!" Then I remembered this is a Cliffhanger before a three day weekedn, and I was like, "Nooooooooooo!"

Geostomp In the name of the POWER, I will punish you! from Arkansas, USA Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
In the name of the POWER, I will punish you!
#256: Jun 9th 2010 at 6:01:56 AM

Looks like we're getting close to wrapping up this latest bit of dimension hopping. Alt-Rammer's seems to be forcing them into action.

"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" Futurama, Godfellas
Rebochan from Kalevala (Y2K) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#257: Jun 9th 2010 at 10:44:14 PM

I'm starting to think Pete just hates Zoe. Her character went to hell over the last few years for no apparent reason. And now it looks like she's only been kept alive long enough to torture her and provide more things for characters to angst about.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#258: Jun 9th 2010 at 11:29:53 PM

^ Her character went to hell specifically because she's the normal, relatable, likeable one. She gets all this misfortune precisely because the audience will react the way you are with her in trouble more strongly than with any other character.

But in the end, it's also that much more satisfying when she ends up ok. I wouldn't worry.

edited 9th Jun '10 11:31:58 PM by KnownUnknown

Rebochan from Kalevala (Y2K) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#259: Jun 9th 2010 at 11:41:31 PM

I should clarify - her characterization got trashed in the build up to all this too. She inexplicably turned into a complete asshole too and spent less and less time in the limelight. It's hard to think that a woman like that was ever The Stormbreaker.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#260: Jun 9th 2010 at 11:46:10 PM

Well, I'd disagree that her decisions in the past few years were inexplicable. Pete did set up some pretty good reasons for why she'd make them.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#261: Jun 10th 2010 at 3:36:02 AM

Exactly what behavior of Zoe's would you call "assholeish"? Only thing that's coming to my mind is the "using embarassing stories about friends on the radio" thing, but under the circumstances I don't think it was that big a deal (and she did try to make it up to them).

As for Zoe's current state . . . I'm forseeing Riff making some kind of Faustian bargain to try and get her healed.

Geostomp In the name of the POWER, I will punish you! from Arkansas, USA Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
In the name of the POWER, I will punish you!
#262: Jun 10th 2010 at 4:47:15 AM

It seems like she's pretty much beyond any non-magical healing here, so I'm assuming that Gwynn will (hopefully) join the next round of dimension hopping.

"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" Futurama, Godfellas
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#263: Jun 10th 2010 at 7:29:42 AM

Provided, of course, that this is our Zoe. While all the evidence points to this place having been intended to hold our Zoe, I can't help but think someone might've pulled the ol' switcheroo.

Rebochan from Kalevala (Y2K) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#264: Jun 10th 2010 at 12:00:49 PM

The whole "radio show" storyline with Zoe seemed intended to make her into a selfish character with no concern for her friends or family. Especially when Min called into the radio show to berate her for missing out on Christmas due to work (oy, seriously? Does she know how many jobs keep people away on Christmas?!)

I honestly didn't think she was that bad, but the comic treated her like she was committing this horrible sin and only Torg had enough forgiveness to care for her.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#265: Jun 10th 2010 at 6:01:07 PM

No, only Zoe's mom (who has a long history of being completely unreasonable) called to berate her for not coming home for Christmas. Min only called to complain because Zoe chose Christmas of all days to drop the tattoo/racy-radio-show revelation on their mom, then cut off all communication with home, leaving Min and their dad to have to deal with it.

Geostomp In the name of the POWER, I will punish you! from Arkansas, USA Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
In the name of the POWER, I will punish you!
#266: Jun 11th 2010 at 4:50:19 AM

Damn. Riff's getting even darker here.

"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" Futurama, Godfellas
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#267: Jun 11th 2010 at 10:03:55 AM

Well, this ain't good.

Why do I think we're not being told something here? Like Rammer's playing him?

edited 11th Jun '10 10:04:24 AM by KnownUnknown

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#268: Jun 11th 2010 at 5:10:12 PM

If Zoe's as badly burned as Rammer says, then shouldn't most of Zoe's distinguishing features also be burned away? Substituting a different burn victim and calling them Zoe wouldn't be improbable.

Geostomp In the name of the POWER, I will punish you! from Arkansas, USA Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
In the name of the POWER, I will punish you!
#269: Jun 11th 2010 at 7:38:23 PM

Maybe, but she was badly burned enough for Riff to think she had died in his arms by the time the first group of happy juice commandos got him, so she's obviously not going to be in good shape.

"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" Futurama, Godfellas
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#270: Jun 12th 2010 at 1:51:21 AM

Possible ways Zoe could come out of this okay:

1) She's infected with nanites ala Dr. Crabtree.

2) She's made the new host body for Oasis or Kusari (assuming the spirit possession thing pans out).

3) Transforming into a camel and transforming back heals all of her wounds (this has never been shown, but Zoe's never been injured when someone's said "shupid" around her that I recall).

Geostomp In the name of the POWER, I will punish you! from Arkansas, USA Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
In the name of the POWER, I will punish you!
#271: Jun 12th 2010 at 6:26:49 AM

The necklace fell off while she was technically dead, so that rules anything camel-related out.

"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" Futurama, Godfellas
MrKnite Since: Dec, 1969
#272: Jun 13th 2010 at 3:43:00 PM

Hey I know this is a bit off-topic but not completely, since Oasis was around lately.

I just wanted to say I feel like she's almost an invincible villan. Except for the fact that she has character, a clear motivation, and at one time was pretty interesting, she seems to fit the bill. I don't know. Personally I've just been hating her more and more and I want to label her as a Scrappy. As much as I love Sluggy I feel like Oasis has become a plot device. I guess mostly I am really sick of her practically never losing. Thoughts?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#273: Jun 13th 2010 at 4:04:03 PM

Technically she's never actually won anything against the good guys, though. Not that I remember, anyway.

But anyway, her being an everpresent threat is sort of the point, isn't it? That's why there's that whole storyline about somehow stopping her before the heroes stop being lucky. She's less of a character in that regard and more of a presence.

edited 13th Jun '10 4:05:18 PM by KnownUnknown

MrKnite Since: Dec, 1969
#274: Jun 13th 2010 at 4:24:39 PM

Fair enough. Where does she belong then?


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